{ "text": "大家好，这里是最佳拍档，我是大飞\n8月11号\nSpaceXAI在整合了Cursor的核心团队后\n宣布推出了一款常驻型智能体工具Grok Bot\n它让你可以拥有多个跑在独立云端电脑的数字员工\n能像真人同事一样自主登录系统、扒取数据、协调软件\n甚至在后台静默完成跨越数小时的复杂业务\n上线短短几周\n大量专业用户集体倒戈\n打造这款产品的核心操盘手\n是SpaceXAI产品负责人罗曼·乌加特（Roman Ugarte）\n他是Cursor的第15号员工\n曾经统管增长业务\n亲历了团队从十多人的车库作坊\n一路狂飙到千人规模\n最终并入SpaceX\n最近他做客了科技播客Lenny's Podcast\n详细复盘了这场反直觉的产品战役\n这场对话最让人意外的地方\n可能是它的起点\nGrok Bot不是在某个战略会议室里规划出来的\n而是几个人几乎躲进山洞开发出来的\n罗曼说\n团队当时在办公室里找了一个完全与大部队隔开的独立角落\n开了私密沟通频道\n把自己彻底封闭起来\n唯一目标就是在一个月内\n打造出一款能把智能体能力普及到全公司的知识工作产品\n从第一行代码到内部可用原型\n真真切切就花了一个月\n他回头看说得很直白\n如果当时团队规模再大一点\n这事可能根本就成不了\n因为要在一个极短的周期里\n做成千上万个微观决策\n很多决定当时完全不符合常规\n如果一大帮人坐在一起反复推演六到十二个月的长远战略\n那就绝对走不到今天\n在一个月拿出原型之后\n他们在全员大会上同步了进展\n告诉大家有一款新产品\n欢迎大家试用\n做产品的人很容易陷入自我感动\n因为你太清楚工具的内部构造了\n所以面向全员开放\n是一次极其硬核的现实压力测试\n大家到底会不会自发把原来的工具扔掉\n转而把Grok Bot当作日常主力\n结果在随后的一周里\n各部门爆发出的热情彻底震撼了他们\n很多平时你根本想不到的团队\n以及那些每天重度依赖常规聊天界面的同事\n竟然自发地把大量工作全部搬了过来\n看到内部反响如此强烈\n他们立刻转向扩容\n几周后正式推向市场\n这里有一个在内部争议极大的决定\n为什么不把这套功能\n直接做进功成名就的Cursor呢？\n行业里其他玩家的路径\n基本都是在原有代码助手里\n增加非技术工作流\n或者在聊天界面里不断塞新的标签页\n罗曼说，他们仔细研究过竞品的策略\n把所有场景塞进同一个界面\n每增加一种形态就新开一个标签页\n用户一用就能感受到\n这根本不是关于未来工作该如何运转的统一构想\n而是几套不相干的业务线\n在强行争夺同一块屏幕\n本质上\n是在向用户输出公司的内部组织架构\n所以他们决心彻底推倒重来\n在新产品里掌控每一个像素\n让每个交互都为智能体原生设计\n发布前还有一段极其残酷但是极其有价值的经历\n手动带教\n罗曼和团队亲自带了两三百位用户\n包括播客主持人Lenny本人\n前几次带教简直就是灾难现场\n你跟用户连着视频通话\n对面的虚拟机卡死起不来\n或者界面交互把对方绕得云里雾里\n大家大眼瞪小眼坐上二十分钟\n但是这种痛苦极其有价值\n核心团队亲眼目睹了尴尬\n挂掉电话唯一的反应就是\n这种事绝对不能再发生\n明天还有下一位用户\n今天晚上必须彻底修好\n在带教时\n他们还有意引入了许多与科技圈毫无交集的真实用户\n比如通过朋友认识了一位开咖啡馆的老板\n这位老板拿到安装包后\n展现出了令人惊叹的创造力\n用Grok Bot打通电商后台、写商品介绍、处理小生意的日常杂务\n反而成了反馈最密集的重度用户之一\n如果电商插件连接不稳定或者文案口吻不对\n他会直接在反馈群里指出非常尖锐的问题\n这种来自真实商业第一线的反馈\n是你在办公室里跟程序员同事做内部测试\n永远不可能发现的\n他时刻提醒团队两件事\n这必须是一个让普通商业用户无门槛使用的通用工具\n他们必须主动跳出硅谷这个自给自足的AI泡泡\n在早期带教和测试中\n有一个决定彻底改变了产品的交互形态\n想清楚用户到底不需要看见什么\nGrok Bot和市面上绝大多数同类产品有一个非常显著的区别\n那就是绝大部分的底层运作机制被彻底隐藏了\n传统智能体产品里，你敲下一句话\n屏幕上立刻会刷出成串的思维链和工具调用记录\n还有一堆像代码一样的运行日志\n罗曼的思考是\n如果你在现实中招来一个优秀的团队伙伴\n绝不会要求他每分每秒向你同步他点了哪个网页、正在敲哪个按键\n一个同事每做一步就跑过来汇报这些机械细节\n不仅无法建立信任\n反而带来巨大的干扰和心理过载\n所以他们直接走向了另一个极端\n你下发指令，告诉智能体要做什么\n它就默默开始干活\n像通讯软件里的同事一样\n亮起代表正在工作的小绿灯\n只在合适的阶段性节点汇报进展\n你看不到底层虚拟机操作\n看不到它调了什么接口\n也看不到它在自己的电脑屏幕上点了哪块像素\n内测时确实有用户希望能看到智能体的待办清单\n这完全合理\n但没有任何一个真实用户表示自己想看那串冗长不断滚动的字符流\n这彻底验证了判断\n把机制细节藏在水面之下\n才是正确的方向\n接下来要说的\n是他们做的一次极其激进的减法\n就在正式发布前两周\n当时产品里面堆满了各种给研发人员自测用的监控工具和实验性配置项\n主界面上直接展示模型的内部思考状态和记忆提取日志\n虽然这给修Bug带来了方便\n但对普通用户来说全是认知噪音\n所以他们必须极其冷酷地清理界面\n把任何用户不需要主动关心的东西统统抽离\n于是\n他们在内部建立了一套非常严苛的产品自审机制\n评估任何新功能时，先问一句\n这个功能的上线推文该怎么写\n如果写不出一句让用户感到兴奋的推文\n甚至用户根本感知不到\n大概率就不该做\n更进一步说，传统软件思维习惯描述\n产品现在拥有了什么新特性\n比如又多了一个按钮\n或者一个下拉菜单\n而他们强迫自己换成\n智能体现在能够做到什么\n简单来说，就是给它的是手脚和工具\n而不是给用户增加操作界面的复杂度\n一个代表性例子是自动化任务的设定\n竞品里设置定时任务\n你得点开侧边栏、按加号、选触发器、选执行动作、填一堆表单\n极其繁琐，普通人根本不用\nGrok Bot里他们把整个配置界面全部删光\n你只需要用日常白话跟它说一句\n以后每天早上八点提醒我这几件事\n它就会在后台把所有逻辑配好\n现在平台上百分之九十九的自动化任务\n都是通过这种自然对话建立的\n回顾整个产品\n罗曼认为有两个在早期极不起眼、甚至违背直觉的底层决策\n起到了决定性作用\n第一个是彻底消除本地和云端的心智鸿沟\n在很多极客产品里\n用户总是要操心这个任务\n到底是在本地跑还是云端跑\n出门用手机发了指令\n家里那台电脑是不是得一直开着\n从第一天起他们就决定全部在云端\n它是一个独立常驻的数字同事\n有属于自己的电脑\n无论你用什么设备唤起它\n状态永远都在\n第二个决策，是必须给每个智能体\n配一台属于它自己的电脑\n人类不是靠标准接口和调用协议来做日常工作的\n工作靠的是看着屏幕上的像素、抓着鼠标点击按钮、在输入框里敲字\n现实世界里的绝大多数企业软件\n根本没有完善的接口去对接AI\n更荒谬的是现存的工作方式\n你招揽了一个智商极高的AI助手\n却让它跟你挤在一张椅子上\n共用一台笔记本电脑\n你看着它在你的屏幕上抢鼠标、互相争夺操作权限\n甚至要把你个人的账号密码一股脑托付给它\n这在现实企业里不可想象\n让智能体拥有自己独立的云端设备\n赋予它视屏和键鼠操作能力\n它才能真正像真实员工一样\n无障碍地接管复杂业务流\n这种基于独立电脑的设想\n在实际业务场景中带来了立竿见影的突破\n最典型的是销售团队\n销售每天用大量老旧的企业软件和内部看板\n那些系统根本没有开发过现代化的对接协议\n以前的AI工具在这些场景里寸步难行\n但有了独立电脑之后\n就像给销售配了一个数字助理\n直接分给它一台笔记本\n它自己在里面登录系统、抓取数据\n早期测试时\n销售反馈智能体在某些内部系统里总是卡壳\n拉出日志一看\n其实就是鼠标的点击精度不够细腻\n没办法准确点中特定控制台里某个极小的按钮\n他们立刻把这种极其具体的视觉反馈\n拿回给底层基建团队\n针对屏幕像素的识别和操控做定向优化\n往往前一天底层推送了一个微小的精度补丁\n第二天销售团队就在群里沸腾了\n因为他们原本必须手动处理一周的死板工作流\n智能体彻底能自主搞定了\n招聘团队的用法更具有启发性\n他们公司的招聘哲学里有一个核心信条\n一个顶级人才是否正在市场上公开找工作\n从来都不是评估要不要招募他的前提\n真正的顶级招聘\n是梳理清楚公司当前最难的业务卡点是什么\n然后放眼全球\n把全行业在相关领域最拔尖的那批人\n彻底摸排一遍\n然后千方百计找到他们\n招聘团队直接给智能体设定了一整套规则\n这是某场顶尖学术会议的官方网页\n上面很多最新论文的全文没有被学术搜索引擎收录\n只以附件形式散落在网页上\n每天早上去下载这些最新论文\n提取作者名单\n只要出现之前没追踪过的新名字\n立刻建档做深度背景调查\n然后比对全员通讯录\n看公司内部是否有人跟这位学者产生过交集\n如果有\n自动给那位员工发送协作消息\n请求引荐喝咖啡\n以往这种浩如烟海的案头工作\n需要耗费几周的时间\n现在一个全天候运转的智能体\n在后台就可以静默完成\n招聘团队只需集中精力做最关键的一步\n就是跟候选人当面深聊\n把最优秀的人吸引过来\n在实际使用中还出现了脑洞大开的操作\n线下聚会上\n一位同事向全场演示了让所有人目瞪口呆的骚操作\n在智能体自己的电脑里\n下载并运行了一个新的Grok Bot\n罗曼自己平时也一直在这么用\n他专门建了一个负责质检的智能体\n每当要给桌面端发布新版本的时候\n就直接对这个质检智能体说\n去你的电脑里把最新客户端安装包下载下来\n运行它\n在里面跑一遍这十个核心工作流\n把测试结果和历史各版本的性能差异\n写进协同文档里\n一旦你的认知\n从这只是一个可以聊天的对话框\n跃迁到这是一个坐在电脑前的数字同事\n你脑海中所有关于任务分配的上限都会被彻底打破\n对于已经熟悉的高阶用户\n核心在于多智能体之间的协同分工\n罗曼自己的主智能体接入了全网所有提及产品的公开舆情\n同时打通了内部的代码库和测试环境\n当全网有任何用户吐槽某个功能、上报某个异常时\n智能体会第一时间提取信息\n甚至尝试在自己的环境里把那个异常复现出来\n然后把定位好的结论呈报给他\n甚至有一些极客用户给智能体开放了最高级别的紧急呼叫权限\n只有在系统出现重大异常\n或者真正十万火急的极少数关头\n智能体才被允许直接打电话打断用户\n当AI从等你给它提问\n变成在后台默默巡逻并主动预警时\n它就已经成为你不可或缺的副手了\n这场对话中还有一个被广泛传播的观点\n罗曼曾经在社交媒体上发过一段话\n一个能搞定百分之百工作的AI\n与一个只能做到百分之九十的AI\n给人带来的感受是截然不同的\n为什么这最后的百分之十会带来质的改变呢？\n因为那剩下的百分之十\n决定了这件事情在心理上到底算不算一次真正的委托\n只能完成百分之九十的状态极其折磨人\n整个执行过程中\n你的大脑并没有得到真正的解放\n必须时刻绷着一根弦\n准备纠错、介入和接盘\n这根本不叫委托\n你的认知带宽依然被牢牢锁死在任务里\n而真正奇妙的体验是\n你在球场上给队友送出一记完全不需要回头确认的不看人传球\n你只需要把球抛出去\n心里非常笃定他绝对能接住并把球打进\n你甚至不需要再看他一眼\n直接转头回防\n当Grok Bot第一次在非编程任务中\n让你敢于给出这种不看人传球\n当你转头离开、半小时后回来\n看见事情已经被彻底办妥并交付闭环时\n你对AI的理解会被彻底颠覆\n至于为什么像Cursor这样的小团队\n能在巨头围追堵截的赛道里\n一路保持令人发指的迭代速度\n罗曼认为很重要的原因是极力守护着最初的创业公司状态\n从十五个人一路狂飙到一千多人\n公司最宝贵的财富就是始终保持着那种略带混乱、但是极度敏捷的冲刺感\n大企业里随着规模扩大\n大家会反复告诉自己\n我们依然是个创业团队\n但是实际上早就官僚化了\n创业公司的本质特征\n不是人数多少或融了哪一轮钱\n而是大家时刻处于一种为了共同目标全速奔跑的状态\n每个人被高度信任\n彼此不需要层层审批\n所以，Cursor的团队内部\n有一句被反复念叨的话\n直接把事做了\n关于护城河\n很多创始人喜欢坐在白板前\n推演两三年后的终局\n罗曼很确定地说\n如果当初他们也坐下来画战略护城河的框架图\n绝对做不出今天的Cursor\n更不可能做出Grok Bot\nAI领域的迭代速度太恐怖了\n真正能建立优势的逻辑非常务实\n那就是站在今天\n你能隐约看清未来三到六个月后模型能力会演进到哪里\n知道哪些现在做不到的事情马上就能做到了\n做的事情就是靠极强的工程和产品直觉\n哪怕花极大力量搭一层临时脚手架\n也要把未来半年的能力强行拉到今天\n做成用户现在就能爽快使用的完整产品\n然后三到六个月后\n底层模型自然迭代\n当初那些需要大费周章搭建的脚手架就会变得毫无必要了\n你必须有勇气亲手把过去费尽心血做的产品特性\n彻底删除\n毫不留恋地把界面让渡给新的纯粹形态\n转身去把再下一个周期的未知能力\n继续拽到当下\n很多体量庞大的先入局者掉队\n不是因为技术或资金不够\n而是沉没成本太高\n在文化上无法承受自我推翻和高频重构\n所以，护城河不是战略图纸画出来的\n而是在持续为用户解决当前痛点的极速奔跑中\n自然沉淀出来的副产品\n对于刚接触Grok Bot的新手\n罗曼不建议死记硬背那些花哨技巧\n因为做产品的终极目标\n就是把所有反人性的旋钮全部干掉\n最关键的一步是\n把它当成一个新入职的真实员工\n先给它充分的业务上下文\n不要只是让它润色邮件\n把你日常使用的协作软件、工作邮箱给它开放权限\n然后直接对它说\n把我的邮件和工作沟通通读一遍\n梳理出五件你能够直接替我接管的具体工作\n并告诉我需要我怎么配合\n罗曼自己最早测试时就是这么做的\n它提出的五条建议里有两个极具价值\n他当场直接建了两个专属智能体\n把那两块业务彻底接管了\n罗曼说\n让它主动根据你的现实境况来提建议\n远比你坐在电脑前苦思冥想提示词要高效得多\n对于高阶用户\n核心在于多智能体之间的协同分工与沉淀\n不要让每个智能体变成各自为战的孤岛\n要设计一套统一的承接结构\n规定所有负责监控、舆情、代码测试或数据整理的智能体\n必须把每天产出的核心结论\n沉淀到一个统一的看板或知识库中\n当你开始以指挥一支专业特战队的心态去调度它们时\n整个工作的杠杆率会被彻底放大\n在最后的快问快答环节\n罗曼推荐了两本书\n一本是冯内古特（Kurt Vonnegut）的《猫的摇篮》（Cat's Cradle）\n非常荒诞但极其迷人\n另一本是普莱斯菲尔德（Steven Pressfield）的《艺术之战》（The War of Art）\n讲的是人在面对创造性工作时\n如何克服内心的阻力与逃避\n每当卡壳的时候翻翻非常提神\n排除自家产品后\n最让他感到兴奋的AI产品是Exa\n一个语义搜索引擎\n它打破了传统关键词匹配的搜索逻辑\n可以在互联网上做不可思议的语义检索\n至于工作或生活中最常提醒自己的座右铭\n他说不是一句简短的口号\n而是马克斯·埃尔曼（Max Ehrmann）的那首散文诗《人生训条》（Desiderata）\n从十几岁起他就把它打印出来贴在房门上\n无论搬家搬到哪里都会重新贴上\n每次读都觉得内心能重新沉静下来\n脚踏实地\n好了\n以上就是罗曼这场对话的主要内容了\n讲透了一款当红产品的诞生内幕\n也揭示了下一代人机协作该如何真正落地\n当AI从一个你问一句答一段的对话框\n变成一个坐在云端电脑前、能被你不看人传球一样的、委以重任的数字同事\n工作的含义就被重新定义了\n罗曼的建议很简单，别把它当聊天框\n把它当一个新同事来办入职\n开放你的工具权限\n让它主动告诉你它能帮你做什么\n感谢收看，我们下期再见", "language": "zh", "duration": 1039.0, "segments": [ { "id": 0, "start": 0.333, "end": 2.95, "text": "大家好，这里是最佳拍档，我是大飞", "source": "video_source_subtitle", "authority": "video_source_subtitle" }, { "id": 1, "start": 3.366, "end": 4.25, "text": "8月11号", "source": "video_source_subtitle", "authority": "video_source_subtitle" }, { "id": 2, "start": 4.25, "end": 7.583, "text": "SpaceXAI在整合了Cursor的核心团队后", "source": "video_source_subtitle", "authority": "video_source_subtitle" }, { "id": 3, "start": 7.683, "end": 11.1, "text": "宣布推出了一款常驻型智能体工具Grok Bot", "source": "video_source_subtitle", "authority": "video_source_subtitle" }, { "id": 4, "start": 11.366, "end": 14.7, "text": "它让你可以拥有多个跑在独立云端电脑的数字员工", 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