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Model\n跟我们熟悉的大型原模型是完全不同的东西\n它不是用来聊天的\n也不是用来写文章或解释概念的\n它只做一件事\n看你给它的资料\n对照你定义的schema\n输出一个结构完全正确的决策结果\n你可以把它想象成一个非常严谨的表格填写员\n你给它什么格式\n它就保证给你什么格式\n这里最关键的技术概念叫做\nConstraint Decoding\n也就是在推理层面就做好限制\n一般的模型\n在生成每一个Token的时候\n理论上可以选任何字\n但Jav的做法是\n你传给他一个Schema\n你可以先把它想成资料格式规则\n他在生成每个Token的时候\n会直接把所有经费违反这个规则的选项\n从词汇表里遮掉\n如果这个栏位的形别是布林子\n那他在那個位置能選的詞就只有2跟false\n其他字根本不在選項裡\n這並不是說他很努力不出錯\n這是他在架構上就不可能出錯\n這兩件事的差別非常大\n前面那種你還是需要驗證\n後面這種你可以直接信任輸出\n就像你相信一個計算機算出來的結果一樣\nTypeSafe AI把這個特性叫做schema safe\n意思就是輸出永遠符合你定義的型別結構\n即對開發者來說\n这意味着你可以把原本那些验证成\n从事逻辑\n而是修正的程式码\n大部分都砍掉\n你定义好行别\n交给Jeff\n就会拿到一个结构完全正确的结果\n每次都是\n这就像你请了一个永远不会犯错的秘书\n他交给你的文件永远都是格式正确的\n你完全不用再检查一遍\nJeff提供三个主要的功能界面\n第一个叫Choice\n你给他一个输入\n再给他一个选项清单\n他直接回传最符合的那个选项\n最多可以有255个选项\n这是像一个超级精准的选择题机器\n你问他问题\n他马上给你正确答案\n第二个叫score\n他会对输入打一个分数\n同时附上confidence\n也就是信心分数\n让你知道他对这个分数有多确定\n这就像一个很专业的评论员\n不只给分数\n还会告诉你\n他打这个分数的把握有多大\n第三个叫no-o\n这个比较特别\n他会输出一个0到1之间的几率值\n代表某件事发生的可能性\n而且這個機率是經過校準的\n不是隨便說說的\n意思是如果NOLE說退款機率是0.8\n就代表10封類似的信裡\n大概有8封真的會是退款需求\n這個數字是可靠的\n這三個功能合在一起\n你就可以做很多事了\n比如說你有一個客服系統\n每天收到幾千封信\n你想要自動分類\n判斷優先順序\n偵測有沒有退款需求\n用傳統的大型語言模型\n你要寫很長的prompt\n還要解析它輸出的文字\n然後還要擔心它今天心情不好\n输出格式跑掉\n用Jeff\n你就把信的内容传进去\n定义好Schema\n他直接给你一个Jason\n类别是什么\n优先顺序\n几分\n是不是退款请求\n信心分数多少\n全部结构完整\n直接可以用\n这就像你把一大堆文件\n丢给一个超级有效率的助理\n他马上就能把所有资讯整理好\n分门别类\n让你一眼就能看懂\n社群里有人做了一个测试\n一次处理1000封信\n平均回应时间大约是200毫秒\n整批跑完费用是多少\n非常少\n因为JF的定价非常低\n输入是每百万Token四分美金\n输出是免费的\n这个价格跟主流的大型原模型\n比起来差距非常大\n简直是佛星价\n说到速度\nTypeSafe AI官方的说法是\nJF可以比传统Transformer模型\n快20到200倍\n便宜40到400倍\n我知道这种数字看起来像行销化数\n所以要说清楚\n这个速度优势\n是在特定的结构化决策任务上\n而不是在所有任务上\n你不能拿Jeff来写一篇文章\n他根本不会\n但如果你的任务是\n看这段资料\n告诉我他属于哪个类别\n那这个速度差距是真实存在的\n这就像你请一个\n短跑选手去跑马拉松\n他可能跑不完\n但如果你让他去跑100公尺\n他绝对是世界级的\n为什么Jeff可以这么快\n因为他根本不需要\n做一般语言模型做的那一事\n他不需要生成自然语言\n不需要维护复杂的上下文\n也不需要做什么深度推理\n他的工作就是看schema\n看輸入輸出\n一個符合schema的決策\n整個推理路徑短很多\n所以快很多\n這就像一個專注於單一任務的機器人\n他只做他被設計來做的事\n所以效率極高\n這個速度差距在某些使用情境上\n會讓整件事從可以用變成真正好用\n最明顯的例子是瀏覽器自動化\n現在有很多工具\n可以讓AI控制你的瀏覽器\n你給他一個目標\n他自己去點頁面\n填資料跳到下一頁\n但如果你真的試過用Astra或Fable做這件事\n你會發現他慢的很痛苦\nAgent 結一張網頁的截圖傳給模型\n然後你等2秒、3秒、有時候5秒\n模型才決定要點哪裡\n這段時間裡網頁可能已經更新了\n或者跳出一個彈窗\n然後Agent的動作就失效了\n這就像你請一個動作很慢的人\n幫你搶限量商品\n等到他反應過來\n商品早就被搶光了\n這就是為什麼瀏覽器自動化到現在\n還是很難真正穩定部署的原因之一\n延遲太高\n反應跟不上動態網頁的節奏\n但如果你把決策層換成Jeff\n延遲從秒級降到毫秒級\nAgent看到DOM結構\n馬上對照Schema\n馬上輸出下一個動作\n他不需要思考\n他就是執行\n這樣的速度才能讓瀏覽器自動化\n從一個很酷的示範\n變成一個可以真正跑在生產環境的東西\n這就像你給機器人裝上超快速反應晶片\n他能瞬間判斷並執行任務\n讓整個流程順暢無比\n好,現在來到我覺得最有意思的部分\n也就是第二個重點\nJeff的定位很特別\n他並不是要取代Astra或Fable\n他其實是要跟他們一起用\n你可以把它想像成一個團隊裡的兩個角色\n一個負責策略,一個負責執行\n我把這個架構叫做雙腦架構\n概念很直觀\n你用大型語言模型做需要深度推理的事\n用Jav做需要快速執行的事\n舉個具體的例子\n假設你在建一個自動化的軟體開發agent\n他可以看需求、寫程式、跑測試、修bug\n當一個新的功能需求進來的時候\n你先把它交給Fable或Astra\n這些模型有深度的推理能力\n他們可以分析整個專案程式碼\n理解依賴關係\n想清楚要怎麼實作\n然后产出一份详细的执行计划\n就是慢的贵的但值得\n因为这个阶段真的需要深度思考\n这就像一个公司的策略长\n负责制定整体方向和计划\n计划出来之后\nFable退场\nJeff接手\nJeff比较适合负责\n判断下一步要做什么\n输出固定格式的指令\n如果测试失败了\nJeff不需要重新思考整个架构\n他只需要看错误讯息\n对照行别定义\n修掉那個行別不符的地方\n再跑一次幾毫秒就完成\n真正寫大段程式碼還是交給Fable或Astra\n這就像公司的執行長\n負責把策略長的計劃\n分解成一個個具體任務\n並快速高效的執行\n你把昂貴的推理集中在規劃階段\n把執行交給一個高速低成本\n格式保證正確的引擎\n這樣的組合才能讓多A-系統真正規模化\n以前這種架構的問題是成本和延遲\n如果一個複雜的任務需要50個為決策\n每個決策要2秒花3分美金\n整個流程就要花1分多鐘\n1塊多美金單次執行\n這樣的單位經濟學根本沒辦法做自動化\n因為跑幾次就虧了\n但Jeff把每個為決策的成本和延遲\n都壓到幾乎可以忽略的程度\n這個架構才真正變得可行\n這就像以前你需要請好幾個顧問來做決策\n現在你只需要請一個策略顧問\n然後把執行交給一個超便宜又超快的機器人\n那實際上怎麼把JAB接近你現有的流程\n有幾個很具體的切入點\n最直接的方式\n是找出你現有AI流程裡最容易壞掉的節點\n通常就是那些讓LLM從非結構化的資料裡\n抽取資訊\n然後格式化成某個固定格式的步驟\n比如說從一封信裡抓出客戶名稱\n訂單編號\n問題類別\n然後寫進CRM\n這種步驟犯成JAB是最直接的\n你定義好schema讓介位做抽取\n格式問題直接消失\n這就像你把一個經常出錯的環節\n換成一個永遠不會出錯的自動化機器人\n瞬間解決了所有問題\n另一個很適合的使用情境是vibe 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