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  "text": "最近幾十年,他都在低利率零利率的狀況之下,大家都借日元然後去投資美股,然後投資美債,美股欣欣向榮。\n可是現在反向操作的時候,就變成什麼樣子?就變成日元的利率上升,大家就回頭要去買日元了。\n為什麼美國去救日元反而是拋歐元?因為他不能拋美元。\n他一抛美元美国不值钱\n然后美债的殖利率更高\n更没人要\n他们现在最担心的日元\n最后变成压垮骆驼的\n最后一根稻草的时候\n变成美元回贬\n没人救得起美国的一个债务\n我们看到日本\n接下来如果升级的话\n不管是对政府\n对于企业\n甚至对一般老百姓\n都会造成相当程度的压力\n但是由于现在的通膨问题\n还有要救日元\n日本政府看起来是不得不升息了\n那如果升息的话\n接下来的影响就是说\n我们知道美日之间的套利空间缩小了\n这些国际的资金可能一口气\n就会从美股美债等等测出来\n接下来如果美债的部分\n再次的资金测出来\n会不会导致它的殖利率\n再继续的往上飙升呢\n那接下来对于美国霸权的影响\n是不是压力又更大了\n吕政长怎么看\n我们看到今年6月的时候\n川普总统进入G7峰会的会场\n他说什么\nI am the boss\n我才是你们的老板\n最近这句话又出现了\n可是是类似的\n是谁讲的\n是倍生特讲\n也就是美国的财政部长\n他直接告诉日本的财务大臣说\n我才是庄家\n意思是什么\n有关于利率汇率以及美债的问题\n我做主\n这个就是一个霸权的思维\n但是这个霸权的思维\n还能撑得下去\n还能撑得下去吗\n我们来看一下\n这张图我们上面看到的是\n美债的十年\n十年期的一个殖利率\n下面的是三十年期的\n可是我们看到这是什么\n它不断的\n这是十年\n就是不断的往上攀升\n往上攀升的意思是什么\n也就是美债不值钱\n美债为什么不值钱\n因为大家都在卖\n这个是我们看到30年期的\n30年期的更夸张\n它已经到达了5.37的一个殖利率\n其实这个殖利率非常接近2007年的\n金融海啸的时候的这个水准\n意思是什么\n大家都不想要持有\n这个相对的也就是我们前一段时间看的\n大家持有黄金\n也就是这是一种对向操作\n我卖了绝对不会\n就是以现金\n在现金的部位上\n而是直接的去投资另外一个商品\n那个就是黄金\n我们看到这个状况\n其实也就告诉我们\n大家都不看好美债\n大家都不看好美债\n偏偏你日本现在要升息\n你当然是迫于无奈\n但是从贝森特的角度来讲\n我是庄家\n那我是庄家\n我为什么要当这个庄家\n因为你日元的利率\n只要上升的话\n那对不起\n刚刚主持人讲到的\n这个套利的空间就不见了\n为什么\n因为刚刚杨老师特别讲到\n日本最近几年\n其实可能不是最近几年\n最近几十年\n他都在低利率零利率的状况之下\n大家都借日元\n然后去投资美股\n然后投资美债\n那在这种状况之下\n那当然我们看到美股欣欣向荣\n美债它的殖利率低\n可是现在反向操作的时候\n就变成什么样子\n就变成你日元的利率上升\n大家就回头要去买日元了\n那在这种状况之下就糟了\n也就是我们前一段时间看到\n为什么美国去救日元\n反而是抛欧元\n因为他不能抛美元\n他一抛美元美国不值钱\n然后美债的殖利率更高\n更没人要\n所以我们现在看到的\n其实是美国的一个\n整体的债务泥落\n这个债务泥落\n其实美国一直想要回购美债\n拉抬这个美债的价格\n来挽救\n可能如果AI出现了一个转折\n实际上他们财政是拉不赢的\n但是问题是\n他们现在最担心的\n日元最后变成压垮骆驼的\n最后一根稻草的时候\n变成美元回贬\n没人救得起美国的一个债务\n今天有关于这一场金融炸弹\n要来看到的是\n日本才在一个月内\n而且是单日我们看到\n日本为了救贿砸下了\n大约是高达了900亿日元要来救日元\n那当时我们看到在它的拯救之下\n我们看到如今美元对上日元是已经来到了153\n确实它有在升值\n一边是在升值\n但是日本的内部现在出现了一个很奇怪的景象\n就是散户为什么还是在持续的放空呢\n难道是对于日本政府没有信心吗\n而且放空的金额是非常非常高的\n散户在近期的净空日元部位\n高达了3.61兆的日元这么高的一个部位\n换句话说市场还有一大群人正在压住\n日元还会继续的跌下去\n这波日元反攻也同时是日本政府要救日元\n也被形容对于美国来说像是金融版的珍珠港2.0\n有点像是一个突袭事件\n等一下我们也会持续的解读\n那另外一方面其实要持续关心的\n就是因为日本的央行了\n9月份如果一旦真的升息的话\n现在看起来不断放空的这些散户\n会不会面临危机呢\n我们刚刚说了金额非常的高\n高达3.61兆\n会不会成为下一颗金融炸弹\n因为到时候他们如果再继续空下去的话\n就要开始做回补了\n那引爆的就会是日元空投的一场大屠杀\n这个是来自于专家所做的一个市井\n好一边是日元可能会面临大屠杀\n另外一边日本的债市要来看到\n十年其国债殖利率已经冲破了3%\n也是数十年最高的一个数字\n现在日本的债务成本已经越来越高了\n超过目前所编列的31兆日元大关\n好 今天节目一开始\n我们要先请教杨老师了\n首先是日元暴冲153字头\n但是散户还在持续的放空\n会不会引爆\n接下来一旦日本升息了\n出现日本的日元空投大屠杀呢\n散户为什么要持续的放空\n是表示对于政府没有信心吗\n再来就是有关于日本的\n这个日在殖利率\n不断的狂飙到现在3%了\n接下来对于企业跟政府来说\n是不是等于在融资成本上\n把他们推向另外一个\n财政上的悬崖呢\n那杨老师怎么看\n现在大家都变成国际金融专家\n如果没有成为专家\n至少这个是重要议题\n大家都会很想知道\n我先不讲就是\n这个散户\n它会不会成为一把柴火\n造成整个日元\n跟日本的财政的问题\n以及散户如果说持续放空\n然后升息之后\n会不会有严重的冲击\n我们先讲\n接下来\n我們先講,接下來這一個月好了,因為講長了,其實不準。到底日園會升還是扁?\n我個人認為,升的機會比扁的機會要低得多。\n因为现在是153.63\n那大概现在从153到155\n我觉得这段期间\n在就是9月18号之前\n这很可能会出现\n也就是继续会贬下去\n那到155甚至到156\n为什么\n因为大家预期现在\n日本银行的鹰派讲话声音非常重\n也就是它会升息\n你一旦升息的时候\n其实日元走贬\n这是比较有可能的\n那接下来的问题是\n那到了9月18号的时候的\n左右同一个时间吧\n美国会不会升息\n现在看起来\n美国升息跟降息都存在\n但升息的空间其实比较高\n为什么\n国际油价现在来到101块布兰特原油\n所以对于通膨的压力越来越大\n除非在未来这几天\n它能够快速的下降到85块\n但我觉得可能性不高\n所以美国的通膨的因素\n会使得美国的升息的机会\n越来越高了\n虽然有人说放话\n要看八月的一些经济的指数\n但是这种温哥派的声音\n现在又消失了\n所以美国升息\n日本升息\n这什么意思\n那就是说\n日元的贬值一个当初最大的原因\n就是美元跟日元\n在汇率上的那个差别\n那种利差带来的\n就是说Carrie Trade\n利差贸易的这个效益\n我去借个一千万的日元\n我换成美元\n先不管汇率怎么样\n因为利率差别很大\n所以汇率如果维持在一个\n可接受不动的范围\n我然后去投资\n比较高报酬的一些标的\n比如说辉达的股票\n那我就赚这个东西\n这个就是现在我们讲的散户\n散户有一个称呼\n叫做渡边太太\n渡边太太是一个\n经济学上的说法\n这是经济学人发明的\n也就是说\n现在拥有3.61兆日元的\n日本的散户\n因为最早最早在做这些操作的\n其实是一些家庭主妇\n其实我很怀疑\n日本家庭主妇哪有那么厉害\n不管怎么样\n这个是经济学人发明的\n渡边太太\n也就是日本的散户\n现在基本上其实看到\n美国跟日本的利率的差别\n所以如果他两个都升息\n那什么差别\n那日元就继续扁\n但是日元扁会有一个禁区\n扁了如果扁到160以上的话\n那双方的政府就跟上次一样\n都会进来这个操盘\n因为你到了一定的压力的时候\n日本就被迫可能要卖更多的美债\n在过去的三个礼拜\n日本就卖了将近900亿的美债\n这个使得贝森特非常不高兴\n所以在这样的一个空间范围之内\n它的利差会持续\n除非今天日元\n如果日元不升息\n我给你那贬得更严重\n因为大家就更不看好\n日元未来的这种情况\n因此这样子的情况\n如果这个利差继续存在\n日元持续贬\n或者在这个范围的\n就是说不会升的这种情况\n会持续一段时间\n但是它不会贬到160以下\n那可是应该讲160以上\n可是现在最大的问题\n其实就是日本债市\n现在已经它的国债的殖利率\n冲破3%\n将来可能日元的海外的资产\n必须要处理而回到日本来\n来维持个平衡\n所以将来我们会看\n它会在这个范围之内\n持续的摆动\n好 这个是第一颗金融炸弹\n我们说一边是日元现在升值\n那这个日元出现了\n未来会不会出现这种很严重的空单\n因为散户还是在狂空日元\n那会不会引爆另外一颗金融杀单\n这是第一个问题\n那第二个问题\n等一下也会请丽将军带我们看\n就是刚刚杨老师也特别提到\n9月份嘛\n也许接下来美国跟日本都会升息\n如果升息的话代表说\n这个美日利差\n已经没有什么获利空间可讲了\n那现在这个全球的日元套利交易规模\n是360亿日元\n一旦资金从美方这边撤出的话\n对于美债恐怕是更不利的\n那会造成什么样的影响\n等一下我们持续请丽将军看\n那这边呢\n美国确实贝森特真的要担心\n因为美国呢\n美债先是说破了40兆之外\n这些长天期短天期的\n这个美债殖利率也都不断的在创高\n首先呢我们看到贝森特\n他已经回购了60亿日元\n针对10年期跟20年期的美债\n就是要来救美债\n那这次的规模呢\n20年期的部分更是前一次\n20亿美元的三倍\n但是重点来了\n市场现在看起来是完全不买单的\n我们来看到10年期的美债殖利率\n已经冲到了4.8%\n创下30年的新高\n30年期更扯了\n已经突破了5.3%\n这两个数字要注意了\n其实都已经几乎是来到警戒线了\n所以现在最新是两位经济学家\n都已经开始做出了市井\n第一位他是布鲁金斯学会的资深研究员\n他说长期的这种殖利率\n已经进入到各方要全面应战的局面了\n那再来就是第二位专家\n他是洛克菲勒国际董事\n他也分析美债突破了40兆美元\n如果十年期的殖利率突破了5%\n刚刚我们说已经来到4.8%了\n那么将类似过去的网路泡沫的悲剧\n这一次会破裂的就是现在最夯的AI泡沫了\n接下来对于美债\n还有长天期的殖利率\n真的压得住吗\n蓝老师怎么看\n我觉得目前对美国来说\n是很困难的\n因为我们也看到多在市井\n殖利率为什么会高\n尤其长天期的殖利率\n例如说10年的殖利率\n30年的殖利率\n殖利率高意思也就是\n我对你的公债不信任\n因为我不信任\n你要我买你的公债\n那你要给我更好的一个保障\n那这个保障\n其实就是指利率就这样翻身上来\n所以各位想想\n我们在台湾经济很热很热的时候\n那时候资金到处缺乏\n资金到处缺乏\n也就是说各个企业家银行都需要抢钱\n都需要抢钱\n再用更高利率的贷款\n贷给中小企业\n在那段时间内\n银行的利率都高\n高达7%\n高达7%的那个美好的时代\n在我们台湾的那段时间里面\n所有的只要手上有闲钱的\n你想想看你一百万\n你一年就赚7% 就7万块\n那这个利息是很高的\n本金 然后银行是\n低风险的一个地方\n可是你每一年就是7万块的收入\n那就是很高的\n那但是为什么银行愿意\n拿那么高的利率\n就是因为企业需要钱\n那企业愿意用更高的贷款的利息\n来支付这个银行\n所以银行要从我们市场上\n来拿这个利息\n可是现在的问题是\n现在殖利率一直升高\n这个钱是给谁\n是给美国政府花\n所以等于是美国政府\n要用更高的钱来去买这个\n卖掉他们的政府的公债\n来付这个利息\n可是问题是在于\n美国政府的债务是越来越大了\n他债务大到一个程度\n他的政府的税收支付不了的时候\n就是美国政府破产的时候\n美国政府一旦破产\n他就没有钱再去还这个利息\n再去还这个本金\n那这样的情形下\n你手上有美国政府公债的人\n他可能血本无归\n他可能会面临很大的问题\n而对美国政府来说\n买美国政府公债的\n最大的客户是国内的企业\n国内的银行金融机构\n是美国政府最大的\n可是另外一部分是外国政府\n可是外国政府他通常有规定\n也就是外国像我们台湾来讲\n就有这么一个规定\n如果美国的性质不是三个A的话\n我们就必须要抛售\n美国政府的公债\n我们一定要是三个A\n因为那是人民的钱\n人民的退休的基金\n还有邮政储金等等的这些\n都是政府的\n都是人民的钱\n所以我们必须要有\n最好的一个保障\n一定要三个A\n那美国政府\n如果你的政府的公债越来越大\n你的政府的收入\n财政收入不够\n你在支付上有问题的时候\n你的平等被评为\n两个A 或是一个A\n那很多国家就被破\n他必须要抛售美国政府的公债\n当他一旦抛售美国政府的公债\n那你对美国来说的话\n你就必须要拿出更多的钱\n给人家数回来\n那数回来的情形下\n您看到对美国的政府破产的速度\n就会加快\n现在的情况是\n所有的分析家\n甚至连巴菲特都在预警了\n说要破产了\n大家要小心\n你拿美元的人要小心\n你买美国政府公债人要小心\n连拿美元的人都要小心\n那也就是说\n你以后你美元也是不值钱的东西\n不值钱的货币那怎么办\n所以我们可以看到很多的国家\n都在开始做避险\n那在做避险里面\n有人国家是把黄金搬走了\n最强而有力的\n就是最显著的\n就是上个礼拜\n荷兰已经把他的黄金又搬走了\n搬走了这个70几公顿\n他就搬走了\n我们也看到大陆已经把黄金\n都一直在陆续撤离美国\n另外一个部分里面\n就是不断的在减持美国政府的公债\n那你想如果日本政府\n在今年的9月\n就刚刚有民凶所评估的\n如果美国政府的\n如果日本政府他最后他认为\n风险才太大了\n他如果真的升息\n他的房地产怎么办\n日本政府的财政的收入\n跟支出的平衡的问题该怎么办\n那如果他真的到最后\n他做了一个决定就是\n不生息是用卖美国政府的公债\n那这个情形像\n对美国政府来讲\n那就是一个更大的一个隐忧\n所以他现在要用政治的压力\n来压日本政府只能自产\n不能自救\n可是问题就在\n当我活不下去的时候\n我就不得不自救了\n那这个时候对美国来说\n都是一个危险\n好 一旦美国政府\n如果真的出现财政破产的情形下\n坦白说\n这个就是AI泡沫时代的来历\n所以我觉得投资在AI的\n美国的投资家来说的话\n他们的风险也随着美国政府\n很有可能破产\n而一直在升高\n其实这个部分里面\n就会让大家感受到说\n如果美国的贝森特\n还是继续这么无能的话\n那他会给美国\n给全世界带来一场大灾难\n好 所以确实\n现在美债所受到的承押也表现出了\n也显示了现在国际资金对于美债的不信任度\n刚刚特别提到\n第一个包括说大家现在开始多国开始卖美债\n然后改买黄金来做避险\n第二个是美国希望透过押注日本来救救它的美债\n但是日本会不会想要自救呢\n答案是非常有可能的\n所以我们接下来也会看到说\n9月份如果说日本央行一旦升息的话\n每日利差的交易\n这个获利就会被终结\n那大家就会从这个\n不管是美国买美国商品的\n这些资产里面测出\n不管是美元啊美债\n或者是高资产的这一些资本的收益\n都会从这当中来抽出\n而且这一笔金额非常的高\n高达了360兆日元\n如果抽出了\n接下来对于美债还有美元的冲击\n又会再扩大有多严重\n立将军又怎么看\n我想说这件事情\n太多的经济专业的术语\n很多我们一般的民众可能听不懂\n我假设我是渡边太太\n就是日本的散户角度\n来看这次日元的框标\n原来我要花160日元\n才可以去买1块钱美金\n我现在153块我就可以买到\n你认为说是日元现在对美元\n对这些渡边太太来讲的话\n是不是甜甜价\n我是甜甜价\n我当然就赶快去买\n因为但是后果是什么\n如果说后续\n如果日元又回贬到160\n那我是不是就赚到了\n我赚到汇率\n我本来我现在153块\n每日元买的\n我到时候160块\n我的美金\n这个卖一块钱美金\n我就可以获利7块的日元\n我就赚到了\n这叫汇\n另外利息来讲还没算进去\n现在来讲我换了美金以后\n我存在美国的利率里面\n有3%甚至于4%\n我跟日本银行界\n我现在只有一%\n我还有3%的利率\n所以对杜边太太\n对这些散户来讲的话\n他等于赚两样东西\n一个是利息 一个是汇率\n双赚\n所以说何乐而不为\n除了杜边太太之外\n有一些外国企业\n国际企业来讲\n他就不是只是赚这个利差而已\n他会去做更杠杆的操作\n譬如说是我去借了日元\n去换了美金\n去买美国的股票\nNVIDIA股票\n去买台积电的股票\n但是有一天\n如果说万一这次日元升值\n日元如果说是后续来讲\n真的升值超过150块\n这些三国会想说\n那这样不行\n我已经亏了利息\n就算我赚到利息\n我亏了汇率\n那这些国际企业来讲说\n我虽然说这个股票\n我赚到2%的利息\n可是汇率我亏了\n这时候他们会做什么\n他宁可赔钱他还把股票卖掉\n就算是NVIDIA股价再好\n后市再看好\n他把它卖掉\n卖掉以后赶快去还日本的\n跟他当初日本人所借的钱\n因为你毕竟是借的钱\n你一定要还利息\n所以我觉得这种一来一往之间\n对日元来讲这叫放空\n放空对美国影响有多大\n我们从贝胜特讲的话\n除了刚刚赖老师所分析的\n日本如果说是继续升息\n会影响到他\n如果说日元继续在贬值\n如果在这种状况下去的话\n对美债他就只有卖美债\n来救日元\n对美国来讲影响有多大\n我们就看到贝森特\n大大大的主动讲什么话\n贝森特他前面讲说\n他说我自己掌握了\n这个不对称的资讯\n你们敢跟我对赌吗\n而且我现在是庄家\n你们这些想要杜边太太\n或者企业\n想要跟我对赌的就放马过来\n但是我觉得贝森特越是讲这种话\n越是看出来美国\n在金融方面的焦虑跟不安\n日本现在为了要救日元\n是开始抛售了美债\n所以贝森特急坏了又非常的生气\n他说我才是庄家\n好另外升值的部分\n现在反而成了救命符\n360兆逃命股市也崩盘了\n而且现在日本要面对的是\n里头有25万家的僵尸企业\n恐怕很快会断气\n会不会重演失落的30年的日本呢\n今天就这些议题我们会做深度剖析\n好现在看到的是日本的金融炸弹\n随时要再度的引爆\n原因就是日本为了要救\n原因就是日本為了要救日園,開始在大規模上個月豪雜了15兆日圓,大舉的賣美元買日圓,創下日本史上最大規模的是單月份的外匯干預。\n所以我们来看到他单月直接卖了796亿美元\n现在总额是来到了大概是1.2兆美元附近\n而且我们看到包括的外币资产\n也这个水位快速的下降至9900多亿\n单月更是报减了800多亿的美元\n那有没有效呢\n确实我们来看到日元的部分有被救起来\n7月底的时候毕竟164\n现在一度是回升到153附近来做徘徊了\n确实我们现在看到日本救日元\n稍微救起来了\n但救起来的话靠的是卖美债\n这时候美国可紧张了\n因为日本持有大量的美债\n高达了1.1兆美元左右\n如果再继续的卖美债的话\n那代表美债的价格会下降\n到时候值率狂飙\n那影响的就是包括了美国的企业\n跟美国政府他们的借贷成本\n会跟着飙升了\n这时候最紧张最紧张的\n就是美国财长贝森特了\n贝森特就跟日本讲好了\n那我们自己想想办法\n拜托你不要再卖美债到公开市场去了\n所以他们最新想好的一个转还的方法\n就是把目光转向联准会最新的\n这个FEMA的回购机制\n所以基本上这个回购机制\n就是要求日本说\n那不然这样好了\n你把你手上的美债抵押给我\n那么我在联准会我借给你美元\n你就可以去买日元\n来有助于日本汇率继续升值\n但是现在有一个关键点\n每一天在市场上的交易金额\n最多就是600亿美元\n这个要影响到日本的汇市\n干预程度或许只是杯水车薪\n所以市场就开始质疑了\n说美国你根本就没有办法\n真的有能力去救日元\n贝森特听了这些话更气了\n他就是这样讲的\n他说不管怎么样\n我现在就是庄家\n好这句话就是直接落狠话出来了\n今天节目一开始\n先请教汉婷怎么看\n贝森特这时候\n连FEMA的回购机制都出来了\n还嗆瞎\n我就是庄家\n真的是有把握吗\n还是在吹哨壮胆呢\n那日元会不会\n如果再度的失守的话\n接下来还是得做一样的方法吗\n靠卖美债吗\n汉婷怎么看\n现在因为日元贬太多\n那日本财务省就要买日元\n卖美元把汇率拉回来\n但是日本要卖美元\n首先要有美元\n可是日本的财务\n大部分是美国国债\n如果直接拿到市场上去拍卖\n美国国债的价格跌个稀巴烂\n美国会不高兴\n所以为了解决这个尴尬\nFEMA机制就派上用场了\nFEMA就像美国联准会开的一家VIP当铺\n日本不用把美债卖掉\n只是拿去当铺抵押借出现金\n那因为美债没有真的流到市面上\n所以不会砸坏美债的行情\n那这笔钱的限期又很短\n日本只要付点利息\n之后还可以把美债赎回来\n所以他又能够拿到美元\n去卖了美元\n然后去买日元\n让日元升值\n也不会把美债的价格砸烂\n可是呢\n市场上在看空美元的人\n仍然很多\n所以贝森特要亲自出来讲话\n说我是庄家\n要对赌请便\n为什么他要讲这个话\n第一个\n他要直接对全球对冲基金\n心理战威慑\n华尔街的空投\n最喜欢盯着弱者咬\n先前日元一路狂扁\n投机客每天去借超低利息的日元\n转去买高利息的美元\n去做套利\n所以贝森特跳出来呛\n我是庄家\n就告诉所有的空投\n日本不是一个人在战斗\n我美国爸爸背后在操盘\n游戏规则是我定的\n你们如果继续做空日元\n我就让你们断头\n而第二\n这也是在帮日本争取时间\n8月日本为了要救汇率\n单月就砸了986亿元\n创下历史记录\n市场都心知肚明\n你又砸了很多钱\n甚至外国证券都砸进去\n一大部分就是美国的国债\n如果日本每个月都被迫\n倒卖几千亿的美债自救\n美债市场就崩盘了\n美债美国自己的各种利率\n就会飙上天\n所以贝森特也必须亲自出来说明\n大家担心的美债狂蝶这件事情\n不会发生\n再来第三\n他也要对外展现自己的掌控力\n替执政团队立威\n作为美方核心的理财金融操盘手\n他要对市场展示\n我们美国的财政部\n美国的联准会\n跟日本央行都搞得非常清楚\n没有什么不对称的资讯\n我们什么时候要进场干预\n什么时候要砸多少钱\n日本央行哪一天要做什么事\n我们都有剧本了\n所以你们外面不要乱搞\n那他到底有什么武器\n其实就是美日联手进场\n过去在处理日元的事情\n都是日本单打独斗\n那华尔街的这些金融巨厄\n或者是世界上的空头\n根本都不怕\n那等到美国亲自下场\n那当然就不一样\n因为美国背后力量比较大\n而且是有FEMA的抵押机制\n再加上美国自己\n长期的回购 长债\n自然就能够阻止日本抛售美债\n那美国自己\n他也能够去做一些宏观的调控\n但是这些套路真的很稳吗\n不一定 为啥\n因为FEMA它只是短期给美元\n它也不会让日元自动的升值\n如果未来美国又有了通膨\n联准会不会降息\n美元仍然很强\n那么日元最后还是会被压\n好 所以我们现在看到\n是日本的动作已经开始出手\n要去救日元了\n但是确实现在日本一边是救日元\n一边他还要面对的就是\n日本自己国内非常严重的通膨问题\n所以现在针对于日本9月份升息的可能性\n已经高达至少7成8成以上\n都认为日本在9月份一定会升息\n那接下来我们要来看几个剧本\n就是日本一旦升息\n接下来对于日本经济有哪几个重大的影响\n现在列出来一共是三大点\n第一个会影响到的就是\n日元套利的空间会立刻消失\n那恐怕的是资金撤离全球股市震荡\n第二个就是对于日本企业获利的影响\n跟第三个日本债券的影响\n我们先来看到具体第一个\n也就是说因为日本跟美国\n现在存在很大的日元套利的一个机会\n所以现在的这个规模\n就是跨境玩这个利差交易的规模\n已经达到了360兆日元\n九和新台币2.35兆美元\n要知道如果这个套利的机会\n这样子的一个交易方式\n如果未来没有了\n就是随着日本升息\n没有的话\n接下来国际资金就可能会撤出日本\n到时候就会引发国际的股市的动荡\n也就是回复到当年2024年\n曾经发生过的一次全球股市动荡\n就是类似的事情所造成的\n第二个受害的就是日本的企业的出口获利\n随着日元升值\n丰田就估算了\n如果汇率一旦来到153附近的话\n这个汇差就可能导致数千亿日元获利\n立刻就消失\n第三个事情就是日本的债势了\n10年期的公債殖利率\n9月初一度升破3%\n已经创下了30年的新高了\n接下来还要再升职吗\n这些都是非常大的问题\n干哥怎么看\n开什么玩笑\n你怎么可以让我们日元升职到那个地步\n对不对\n日本有多少人在玩日元套利亚\n几百万人在玩\n而且你绝对不相信\n很多散户在玩\n为什么\n很简单\n就是日元它一向都是很低的\n对不对\n它就在很低的时候\n那这些日本的散户\n他们就在你逢低的时候\n他就买进\n那他就一直都很低\n为什么\n他就去买\n日本央行根本不敢好吗\n他们一向对于\n就是说日本的一般的老百姓\n或是银行的话\n都不敢升这样的利息\n所以说你现在突然升两码\n那我看日本就不要玩了\n360兆日元的市场\n也许我们对日元比较没有概念\n那直接换算2.35兆美元\n那有多少家庭会陷入其中\n还有股市怎么办\n你有沒有想過這個問題\n所以然後還更好笑\n豐田 豐田\n豐田是不用講\n全球第一品牌\n豐田說\n我們已經估計到\n每升值一日元\n那我們從海外賺的錢\n匯回來了\n直接損失500億日元\n差這麼多\n那我們整年季度的財報\n都不用寫了\n對不對\n還得了嗎\n所以你升息\n你光升息一日元就这样了\n所以如果九月升息一马\n他说日本央行应该升息两马\n他说光升息一马\n日本就会经济动荡了\n为什么\n因为长期以来\n就是日本经济的泡沫\n它是其来有致的\n他们讲了一个笑话\n1989年37年前\n他说日本的\n就是即将达到泡沫最高点的时候\n外面市场就在讲\n在东京的那个黄居\n皇帝住的那个皇居\n那个房地产会超过\n加州整个房地产加起来的总格\n因为泡沫到这种地步\n结果泡沫终于吹破了\n对不对\n就那个时候的谣言\n会让大家恐慌到\n你心里害怕的事情\n全部都成真的\n所以还没有讲到\n最后讲到什么\n在市\n十年级公债利率\n那殖利率一度升\n标破3%\n那日本的银行\n保险公司\n他们都持有大量的日本国债\n对不对\n那损失的风险就更高\n我觉得高市长没有不敢这样做\n你真的要升息的话\n你暂时是稳住了\n可是我可以跟你讲\n日元只要再升破150\n他现在说153\n已经到顶了\n不要再升了\n再升下去的话完蛋了\n他说没有\n现在投资人他准备升破140\n下大柱\n然后日本的散户\n反过头来做\n我跟你讲\n这个双方之间的冲撞\n有戏可看\n可是我可以告诉你\n对日本的经济\n会有更大更强烈的影响\n到时候一定是失业的人更多\n经济指数更难看\n好 那另外一方面\n因为刚刚也帮我们提到了\n当时在1989年\n这个时候有一个大泡沫\n其实大泡沫当时的背景\n就是因为日本他当时升息了\n那升息之后就接连爆出了\n各种银行的坏账\n那也就引发了\n后续我们看到这过去几十年来\n日本的失落现象\n那这一次现在来到了现在\n路透社最新报道是日本的僵尸企业\n大概达到了25万家\n他们都是靠低率的\n如果一旦升息了\n接下来政府又不救他们的话\n是否引爆一系列的危机\n也就是过去30年的失落日本\n是否再次在今天重新上演\n那运老师又怎么看\n日元跟美元之间的套利现象\n我稍微解释一下什么叫套利\n就是从日元到日本银行是零利息\n甚至还有一段时间是负利息\n然后美国的利息节节升高\n现在到达5%\n至少也有4.5%\n所以说贝尊德这边吹牛\n我是market maker\n他做梦\n我跟你讲\n你这个日本和美国的经济\n都是自由经济\n这个如果说是你\n我说句良心话\n你在大陆的这种经济政策的话\n有market maker我相信\n那大陆的人民银行\n他绝对是market maker\n因为他本身来讲\n就是没有这个外汇这样进来\n你现在炒会\n我先跟大家解释一下\n就是说这个套利已经到什么现象\n就是有一个名词\n叫做这个\n叫做渡边夫人\n就是说日本的很多的赚的钱\n都管钱的人\n日本女人很多人不上班\n在家管钱\n这些管钱人话一听\n不得了\n这个你只要从银行中借书钱来\n送到美国银行\n你出门都不用打个电话就换\n我现在借这个一日元\n然后全部\n马上就买成美元\n然后你等着时间的话\n就光吃利息\n你要了解\n做生意的话\n固定白赚5%\n是很不简单的\n对不对\n你不赔就好了\n所以说产生这种套利的现象\n这现象搞了多久\n一直到最后\n大家才发觉\n原来日本跟美国之间的\n银行之间产生的感觉\n我刚刚还跟我们干哥\n在聊了一下\n在计算的过程当中\n就不懂这个道理的人\n就像我们自己个傻子\n对不对\n大部分人\n哪个人不懂这个道理呢\n对不对\n你拿到日元\n借日元出来也不用钱\n然后一换\n巴菲特都在搞这一套\n对不对\n所以你在这个长期下来的话\n那日本为什么出现这种问题\n你刚刚讲到\n为什么有25万家僵尸企业\n我告诉你一个非常简单的问题\n因为日本有这种问题\n日本不是没有财经人才\n而是日本这个国家\n长期对自己老百姓非常好\n日本对老百姓好的方式的话\n就是说你会看到\n日本人最害怕失业\n让这些企业不要失业\n不要失业情况下\n薪水要能够发得出来\n就是不失业\n不失业发得出来的话\n如果说老板本身的\n这个借这个钱的成本\n很低很低\n甚至是富的情况下来讲\n那对他来讲的话\n这个企业就可以维持生存\n对不对\n那现在这个套利的现象\n搞得这么严重\n我觉得他日本是\n接着三方面的问题\n首先第一个问题就是说\n是这个套利现象很严重\n然后第二个问题的话\n就是日本本身对老百姓\n好到简直没有立场\n所以说日本本身\n为什么自己发行的内战\n是他们的GDP的百分之二百六\n2.6倍\n那这根本没办法升息\n一升息的话要还的债非常多\n然后第三点的话\n美国真的是提了油来揪火\n因为美国本身来讲的话\n只有一个要求\n你绝对不可以给我卖美债\n就像刚刚和你讲\n你除了这一点以外\n其他随便你搞\n那日本讲说\n我根本就是货币在贬值\n到根本就情况\n你要知道\n现在整个机器当中生活垫底的\n日本现在的话\n他们自己的平均收入\n只有33843块美元\n这是里面最低的国家\n你要了解\n相对于这种情况来讲\n美国的话都高达8万多美元\n所以你在这种情况之下\n这个汇率当中\n使得日本的生活当中\n面对了非常大的压力\n现在是加息也不是\n那么这个减息也不可能\n所以说出现了这种结果\n那这个情况下来讲的话\n没有人知道日本的经济要怎么救\n日本自己都不知道\n今天有关于这一场\n美日之间要救日元的这一场大战\n我们持续来看到\n日本是不是又被逼到墙角了呢\n我们稍微回顾一下\n一个月前\n当时美国跟日本一起来集体要救日元\n上演了一场罕见的日元保卫战\n当时日本是砸下了15兆日元要来救会\n创下了一个月内的最新记录\n才一个月的时间\n但是我们要来看到的是\n不只是日本救\n当时美国也要救日元\n所以他就跟着跟进\n卖了日元来买日元\n结果发生了什么事\n才一个月的时间\n日元再度的跌破了160关卡了\n眼看这样子旧日元还是没有效的\n最新消息有没有来看到\n美国财长贝森特这一次不演了\n干脆就直接跟日本放话了\n说在G团体上面点名日本\n你赶快升息吧\n现在市场也压住说\n在贝森特讲了这些话之后\n日盈下一次的升息\n几率高达超过了七成的几率\n重点是日本央行的利益\n重點是,日本央行的利率政策竟然是輪到美國來指指點點,美國來指導。\n現在大家也在說,是連高斯早苗自己都不敢去指導,\n要求自己的央行總裁直填河南升息了。\n那美国凭什么呢?\n好,我们又来看到\n那美国担心的点是什么呢?\n就是因为日本是美国\n非常重要的美债持有国\n现在持有的规模\n大概是达到了1.1兆美元的规模\n要就日元的话\n可能他就会透过抛售美债\n买进日元来支撑他的汇率\n但是这也是美国同时最害怕的事情\n因为美国自己的国债问题\n这么的严重啊\n现在公债已经超过了\n40兆美元的大关\n十年期的公债殖利率\n更是冲过了\n4.78%\n已经逼近5%\n这么危险的一个数字了\n贝森特的逻辑非常的清楚\n他这一次不想要\n就是靠美元来\n卖美元\n买日元来救日元了\n而是要靠日本自己升息\n来缩小每日之间的这个利差\n而这样子的话出来之后\n大家也在回顾说\n会不会当时1985年的\n广场协议\n又再度的发酵了呢\n让日本再次经历下一次的失落20年吗\n先来请教谢大使怎么看\n当然了\n贝森特这句话反面的意思就是说\n你不准卖美债\n我告诉你\n你只能怎么样\n你只能生息\n你两个选择你只能生息\n这个其实在日本内部是有争论的\n高市长因为他这个执政\n就主政的经验不足\n然后他也是很意识形态\n意识形态建国的治国\n意识形态建国的都是有一个\n就是说都有一个特色\n就是经济要为政治服务\n不是政治为经济服务\n有意识形态的国家\n政府都是这样\n意识形态是最高价值\n用花钱去\n花钱去达到意识形态的目标\n高市早苗就是这一种\n所以高市早苗这一点\n就和日本的自民党的造王者\n麻生太郎有严重的冲突\n听说有一次\n就是说日元暴跌的问题\n麻生太郎去见高石澡苗\n谈了不到一个小时\n麻生出来面色非常难看\n出来就搞他的派系在开会议\n好像是想把高石澡苗弄下来\n其实他们最大的真正点\n就是在怎么样来救\n跌跌不休的日元\n麻生太郎他们这一派的看法是什么\n不能生息\n只能卖美债\n你就卖美债\n上一次卖了700多亿\n这一次又花了一两百亿\n因为有美国出手\n也没有在美国手上的美债\n不到10%\n不到10%\n不到一成\n那你手上这个工具\n你拿着美债干嘛\n你死抱着美债\n你救美国 美国感谢你\n你要救日本\n你现在这次先卖1000亿\n看看救不救得了\n事实上是可能\n1000亿不足\n1500亿下去\n日本现在的美债是一兆1000多亿\n你抓那么多美债干嘛\n你是在撑美元\n撑美元你自己要先撑得住\n所以这个麻生他们是这样看法\n可是你如果卖掉\n你现在卖掉500亿\n卖掉1000亿美债的话\n那美国就不高兴了\n你这个是什么\n你这个是\n你这个背后插刀\n所以贝森特一听\n你们这个日币守不住\n第一个讲就是说\n你不你要\n你就是你只有一条路\n就是什么\n生息\n那为什么麻生他们反对生息\n日本现在的利息是非常的低\n可是日本有两大问题\n第一个你升息以后\n日本的国债\n你这个利息就会吃掉\n日本国债的利息\n国债这个日本政府\n每年要负担的利息就很重\n你再升息利息更重\n那会怎么样\n排挤很多社会福利的这些开支\n很多政府的必要的开支\n那因为日本的国债\n它是目前它的GDP的\n这个2.6倍\n如果以4兆来算日本的GDP的话\n那大概就是10.4兆美元的国债\n日本这么小一个国家\n对不对\n他的国债是美国国债的四分之\n这个好四分之一\n日本也不过\n美国才不过40兆\n他就10兆了\n对\n可是问题国债\n第一个\n你如果升息的话\n那第一个\n美国日本政府的负担会更重\n第二个问题是什么\n第二个问题\n日本有25万家僵尸企业\n这些僵尸企业还撑住的话\n就是因为他的银行贷款的利息还很低\n如果他的利息提高的话\n那这些僵尸企业的银行利率\n会把这些僵尸企业都怎么样\n让他们破产\n25万的僵尸企业\n这样一破产下去\n日本会造成一个重大的经济危机\n那最主要是大量的失业人口\n这是很严重的政治问题\n所以我们就看\n高市早苗如果他要升息的话\n他就要面临日本的经济的\n一个可能比日元贬值更大的冲击\n可是他敢去卖美债吗\n他一切都要靠美国了\n他现在不管搞军国主义\n搞一大堆美国人还没坑气\n美国人要坑气\n他路就走不通\n所以他现在不敢得罪美国\n所以我看他最后可能还是怎么样\n就是升息\n那升息的话就看\n那大家日本人就自己\n自己看这般了\n支持我們製作高品質的影片\n點擊下方的加入鍵\n一起成為戰友吧\n我們會員頻道見",
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