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今天這期視頻我們再談一談AI小盒子。就是AMD的AIMAX 395-400、英偉達的DGX Spark。然後蘋果的M5 Max和Ultra。

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為什麼呢?因為最近Deepseek V4.1 Flash這個重磅模型發布了。這個模型可以說是相當的牛逼。經過我這兩天的實測,我一開始認為它可能說能夠勉強替代Deepseek V4 Pro。

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但是深度使用之后我发现它是完全可以替代DeepSig V4 Pro

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并且有这个论坛有人发帖子

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就是比较权威的这些机构他们测评之后

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认为这个什么DeepSig V4.1 Flush

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在很多任务场景中都能够跟这个什么GPT-6 Astra

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跟这个Cloud 5.1这样的顶级旗舰模型

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做到相当稍微落后的一点水平

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它的成本就要低上一两个档次

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那么这个模型它刚好就能够在小盒子上跑起来

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在这种情况下就不得不讲它了

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就把这个小盒子在这个提一下

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虽然我本地都是跑这个7.820GB

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我一直主张大家去买这个独立的显卡

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比如说4090 48G 7900 XTX

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或者说是什么RTX Pro 4500 5000 6000

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是吧

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因为他们能够在本地跑大模型的同时

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也能够跑这个什么MiliMax H3

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跑这个LTX 2.3这样的视频模型

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跑Confi UI生态

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生产力是非常不错的

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是吧

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但是毕竟他们是跑不了

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Deep Seek 威斯福拉奇这样的

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可以说是目前性价比最高的这个模型

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那么我们首先从这个AMD谈起

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就是AMD这家公司呢

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它的这个什么AI Max 395跟这个400

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它现在陆续的发布了

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395好像是128级的这个内存

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400好像是可以支持到192级了

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但是呢我就有点没搞清楚

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你说它为什么不搞256级版本的呢

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我还去问了一下AI

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就这家公司它骂得非常的脑残

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知道吗

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它在设计这个芯片的时候

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它的硬件规格就只能跑到192G

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就支持不到256G

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你说这个硬件设计是得有多脑残

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才能够想得出来

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而且它这个395

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在这个市场反响

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比较一般的情况下

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你这个400出来

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就算说你这个核心部分

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你不去改

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你起码把395的一些大的毛病

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给它修改

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比如说它两台小盒子之间

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没有高速的互联方案

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不像英伟达

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英伟达有这个高速的互联方案

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可以两台128G的盒子合到一起

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形成256G的统一

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显存尺 瑞存尺

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AMD不能

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那么如果说你买395的话

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你就只能跑什么轻吻3.8Flash

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或者轻吻3.820Gb

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这两个模型在小盒子上跑都是非常的慢

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就响应速度很慢

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这个3.8Flash

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它不要说本地的小盒子跑

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它就是你用什么RTX

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跑到5000

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6000来跑它也慢

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就这个模型本身有问题

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然后这个轻微3.827币

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由于是稠密模型

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它同时激活这个270亿赛数

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比跑里这个什么DeepSick威斯福拉西的时候

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激活13币

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这个算力负担更大

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对于算力跟带宽的要求就更高

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那么IMD的小盒子跑起来

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就算是你把这个什么SG浪给它部署到位了

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它这个体验也是不怎么样的

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就你加入什么DeepFush2呀

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投机尖码是吧

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它的响应其实也都一般

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如果说你升级到这个什么AI Max 400

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能够买这个新的版本

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买这个190二级的路线版本

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那里也很尴尬

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因为这个Deep Seek V4 Flash

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它这个家族

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它是这个什么NVFP4跟这个FP8的混合模型

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它这个模型本身的这个尺寸

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大概是140几左右

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140多几

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你放上去之后再扣除系统开销

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扣除这个框架开销

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那里剩下来的就只能跑

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单个绘画长生下文

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你想多开难度很高

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就你很难理解

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这家公司为什么会这么老残

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就他这么多年来被这个什么

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英伟达吊打是有原因的

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就是他设计产品的时候

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非常的粗暴

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非常的粗放

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完全不考虑市场需求

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可能他们的设计师

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也用英伟达的显卡

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他可能不用自家的显卡

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你比如说他跟什么英塔去搞这个什么

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芯片竞争的时候

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我们都认为他渗出市场之后

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会回馈我们玩家

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把这个什么CPU的价格做下来

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结果并不是

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他非常的邪恶

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跟英塔长期联手

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是吧

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推高这个CPU的这个入门价格

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我们一点便宜都没占到

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再比如说他搞显卡的时候

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他非常的鸡贼

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就他知道自家的这个显卡

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性能生态没有这个英伟达好

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好比说英伟达的显卡卖5000是吧

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那我扣除生态是吧

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我就卖4000

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你虽然看起来

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你买他的卡同样的贵格

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你省了1000块钱

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但是这1000块钱

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你付出的这个体验差距

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这就是你支付的价格

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你实际上一毛钱便宜都没赚到

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相反你还有可能亏的更多

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给AMD做了小白鼠

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这么多年来

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一些游戏行业的创新

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但并不是每一项游戏创新都是好的

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基本上都是英伟达搞的

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比如说这个什么光追

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再比如什么这个插针

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就是DLSS

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就是插针的AI插针

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AMD搞了个叫什么FSR

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是吧

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就是永远是老黄做什么作业

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他在后面抄什么作业

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关键每次抄的都不彻底

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抄的都不好

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然后又不愿意真正给玩家上力

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就非常的鸡贼

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比如说前一阵子

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我这个推荐他的显卡

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就是什么7900XDX

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AI Pro R9700是吧

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那你这个时候

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你不应该多推出一点类似的产品吗

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是不是

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就市场中像我们这些屌丝

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都被这个老黄的刀法割得有点疼了

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你这个时候推出一些好的产品

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最起码说你能跟什么4080S30RG

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跟什么409048G摩托卡给干一干

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你都不要去比什么RTX Pro5600了

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你推出这样的卡

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卖的便宜一点

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让利下玩家的生态不就起来了吗

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并不会

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他只要出新的产品

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他就贵得很

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价格就对标老黄

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他给你让的利

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永远是你在生态上面吃的亏

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就是你吃多少亏

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他给你让多少利

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就它的小盒子你就不要碰了

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但如果说你现在就已经买了

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我就建议你认真去研究一下

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这个SG浪

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研究一下这个D-Flash

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D-Spark这些技术

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它能够缓解你的痛苦

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把千万3.820GB给剖好就行了

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其他的就不要多想了

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你也不要买它的盒子

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来跑这个Dipsick V-Flash

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因为那样子很傻

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下面就说这个英伟达的小盒子

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DGX Spark两台能够跑这个V-Flash

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这个是经过社区的多轮实测

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然后我们这个论坛

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也有不少帖子是实测跑起来的

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体验是非常不错的

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有真实的帖子

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你们可以到论坛去

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跟这些大神交流

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跟实际跑起来的人交流

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看看他们是怎么配置的

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这一块你就不用犹豫了

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如果说你刚好有这么七八万块钱

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预算在

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你想在本地跑这个什么

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Deepseek vs.Flug

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哪怕说你也想跑这个轻微3.8都可以

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甚至他跑轻微3.8Flug

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也比AMD的积极快

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如果说你还想兼容一下这个什么

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Confi UI

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它的这个Confi UI确实跑起来是慢了

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跑Milimax H3

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跑这个什么LTXR.3

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都慢的跟污涵一样

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但是你毕竟是买了两个盒子嘛

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你同时跑嘛

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它毕竟还是能跑的嘛

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就买老黄的东西就是没有什么压力

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是吧

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它两台盒子高速互联

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这个互联呢

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贷款达到了200几每秒

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是非常夸张的

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你可以对比一下嘛

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这个雷电5

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就苹果现在

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如果说零两代核子互联的话

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它是零零五零零五是八世纪

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这个八世纪里面并不是所有东西都可以拿出来的

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它只有六十几左右可以用来通信

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你就可以想一想一想

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老黄的这个互联方案也好

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还是这个小盒子

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它本身这个价值也好

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我认为它未来有很长一段时间的可玩性

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满大满算是吧

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你也就能够用上了

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那这个模型比起这个什么

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当下这个威斯夫拉奇牛逼在哪里

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第一是它的跑分应该会高出一截

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第二就是做任务的这个能力很强

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第三它是原生的多魔态

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这个可能说到时候又会有一些新的玩法出来

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况且就算是现在你用这个什么

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威斯夫拉奇的这个视觉版本

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它本身就能够非常好的干活了

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性价比就非常高了

247
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就这个核子是值得长期持有的

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未来有可能还会再涨价

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甚至我们可以关注一下

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搞不好老黄这个比较技贼的奸商

251
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他也有可能会发布下一代的产品

252
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但是那可能要很长的时间了

253
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因为他刚刚发布了这个什么

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RTX SPARC是吧

255
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这个笔记本

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也是引用了相同的架构

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我觉得怎么也得等明年了

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再上量这个时间

259
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我觉得如果说你有钱的话

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要马上生产

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那我觉得就不要等了

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就这个小盒子

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他未来的保值率一定是非常不错的

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当然我们要接受

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它是ARM的生态

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它这个什么

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没有奇差机用的Windows

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有了Windows之后

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它的生态也跟标准的X86Windows

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也是有差距的

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这是它明显不如

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AI Max 395 400的一个地方

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但是相信你买来是跑AI的

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是吧

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也不是用它来这个办公的

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这个体验差距

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我认为是可以接受的

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甚至即便是你办公

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你想办法把这个ARM Windows

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给它装上去

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它也体验也差不多哪去

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轻度的办公都能用

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那最后呢就是讲一讲苹果

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苹果呢就是说M5MAX本身就能打

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就它用来跑这个什么轻温3.8RG

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是这三个盒子中

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应该说表现最好的

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因为它是640G的带宽

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然后

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它如果是这个什么M5Ultra的话

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它是两个MAX并联在一起

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它芯片价的互联带宽高达几个T

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就这个总体的这个什么

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显存带宽好像是1.2T

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将近1.3T

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这个是非常能打的一个数字了

297
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就如果说你这个预算比较低

298
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那么你就买这个什么M5max

299
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买这个128G版本的

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用在本地跑这个什么轻微3.8G

301
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或者说是Flash

302
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它同时还能够有大量的这个绿村余量

303
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用来办公用来编程

304
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苹果的操作系统体验还是非常棒

305
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非常的稳定的

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你也可以把A进的就跑在这一个盒子上

307
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它的可玩性还是非常不错的

308
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但是必须要说它跑不了这个Konfi UI

309
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苹果是这三个盒子中

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破CONFUI最差的

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因为它的这个生态借容性不好

312
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而且苹果的所有芯片

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包括M5在内

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它这个叫什么

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FP3SAR的原始卷积算力是最低的

316
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这一块是天生残疾

317
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苹果设计的时候

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就没有为这个场景考虑

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就算是你勉强把这个CONFUI跑起来

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它速度也是慢的很

321
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当然了

322
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它画图是没问题的

323
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破音频是没问题的

324
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视频这一块就可以洗碎了

325
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你能接受这个缺点

326
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苹果的芯片

327
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苹果的小盒子性价比是非常高的

328
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然后如果说你要买Ultra 256G的

329
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它是肯定可以把DeepSeek和VS-Flug

330
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给跑起来的

331
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当然你需要知道它有一些硬性的缺点

332
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就是它本身没有什么FP4 FP8

333
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是吧

334
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它这个退理的时候

335
00:11:21,099 --> 00:11:22,519
只能返回BF16来退理

336
00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:24,659
当然这个也不是问题了

337
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因为毕竟这么大的带宽在这里

338
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是吧

339
00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,239
它还有一个你必须面对的现实

340
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就是它的生态

341
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远远不如AMD跟这个什么英伟达

342
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就是什么呢

343
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最主要的一个表现SG浪

344
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就SG浪

345
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你当下如果要火Agent的话

346
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我跟你讲

347
00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:42,939
你部署Lambati CPP

348
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部署这个什么VLM

349
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他们单会话可能说还可以

350
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一旦多会话长生下文

351
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你必须要上SG浪

352
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因为RATX缓存数

353
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我强调过多少次

354
00:11:53,019 --> 00:11:54,799
你们一定要去论坛

355
00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:55,839
去认真学习一下

356
00:11:55,839 --> 00:11:56,759
这些基础的概念

357
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RATX缓存数是非常重要的

358
00:11:58,839 --> 00:12:01,119
它能够对这个什么新的请求

359
00:12:01,119 --> 00:12:03,059
只做增量部分的这个prefill

360
00:12:03,059 --> 00:12:05,339
不用每次prefile一大段

361
00:12:05,339 --> 00:12:08,319
这个可以大大降低显卡的负载压力

362
00:12:08,319 --> 00:12:09,099
在小盒子上

363
00:12:09,099 --> 00:12:13,459
它降低的压力带来的意义就尤为重要

364
00:12:13,459 --> 00:12:16,539
但是我们也不用感到悲观

365
00:12:16,539 --> 00:12:17,939
因为我也去研究了一下

366
00:12:17,939 --> 00:12:19,859
社区现在已经有版本

367
00:12:19,859 --> 00:12:20,959
它不是主干版本

368
00:12:20,959 --> 00:12:22,479
不是SG浪官方的主干版本

369
00:12:22,479 --> 00:12:24,539
可以支持这个Radix换存数

370
00:12:24,539 --> 00:12:26,879
但是有副作用

371
00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:27,619
也有一些bug

372
00:12:27,619 --> 00:12:31,059
我相信现在即便它不能支持

373
00:12:31,059 --> 00:12:34,179
你用这个什么原始的这个prefill方式

374
00:12:34,179 --> 00:12:35,159
它也能玩

375
00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:36,039
DeepSick with Flaji

376
00:12:36,039 --> 00:12:37,239
肯定是能够跑起来的

377
00:12:37,239 --> 00:12:38,159
体验是不会差的

378
00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:40,419
你只要是买了M5 Ultra 256G

379
00:12:40,419 --> 00:12:41,379
是肯定够的

380
00:12:41,379 --> 00:12:43,759
未来的就是RedX缓存数

381
00:12:43,759 --> 00:12:45,919
一定会被官方给它加入到

382
00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:48,219
这个苹果的MLX生态中去的

383
00:12:48,219 --> 00:12:52,319
因为SG浪官方已经支持了MLX后端

384
00:12:52,319 --> 00:12:54,859
只不过暂时还没有把这个RedX缓存数

385
00:12:54,859 --> 00:12:56,159
给它加入进来

386
00:12:56,159 --> 00:12:57,559
这个是迟早的事情

387
00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:58,519
社区跑完之后

388
00:12:58,519 --> 00:12:59,759
肯定会有很多人

389
00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:02,359
向这个SG量的这个官方主板们提交请求

390
00:13:02,359 --> 00:13:04,719
一旦成熟了会被主板们合并

391
00:13:04,719 --> 00:13:08,499
到那个时候你跑这个什么Deepseek V4.1 Flush

392
00:13:08,499 --> 00:13:10,899
或者说那个时候可能都已经4.2 Flush了

393
00:13:10,899 --> 00:13:13,719
是吧那这体验是不会差的

394
00:13:13,719 --> 00:13:15,519
最后总结一下就是

395
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如果说你现在一定要买小盒子

396
00:13:18,019 --> 00:13:19,159
AMD的小盒子便宜

397
00:13:19,159 --> 00:13:20,319
但是我必须跟你讲

398
00:13:20,319 --> 00:13:21,759
这小盒子也是最垃圾的

399
00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:24,239
就是你不能对他有太高的期望

400
00:13:24,239 --> 00:13:26,019
他抛起来的体验是最差的

401
00:13:26,019 --> 00:13:27,879
然后英伟达的小盒子表现是最好的

402
00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:29,019
最有性价比的

403
00:13:29,019 --> 00:13:31,179
也是最有这个保值空间的

404
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将来甚至有可能有甚至空间

405
00:13:33,239 --> 00:13:35,919
如果说这个算力荒持续的话

406
00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:36,839
硬件荒持续的话

407
00:13:36,839 --> 00:13:38,199
对了

408
00:13:38,199 --> 00:13:39,879
英伟达的小盒子送你四个TB

409
00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:41,159
四个DP

410
00:13:41,159 --> 00:13:43,059
每个小盒子送你四个TB的存储空间

411
00:13:43,059 --> 00:13:44,619
这个当下来说也是一个价值

412
00:13:44,619 --> 00:13:46,579
就这两个小盒子

413
00:13:46,579 --> 00:13:48,499
能够为你在本地搭进你私有的一个Math

414
00:13:48,499 --> 00:13:49,599
体验

415
00:13:49,599 --> 00:13:51,259
这是附带的

416
00:13:51,259 --> 00:13:51,499
是吧

417
00:13:51,499 --> 00:13:53,079
它本身跑这个什么

418
00:13:53,079 --> 00:13:53,639
Comphe UI

419
00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:54,379
跑这个什么

420
00:13:54,379 --> 00:13:56,239
Deep Seek Vist Flash

421
00:13:56,239 --> 00:13:58,479
它体验都是非常不错的

422
00:13:58,479 --> 00:14:00,179
是吧

423
00:14:00,179 --> 00:14:00,659
画图啊

424
00:14:00,659 --> 00:14:01,119
音频啊

425
00:14:01,119 --> 00:14:02,259
当然视频可能要慢一点

426
00:14:02,259 --> 00:14:04,419
那个是小盒子的印商

427
00:14:04,419 --> 00:14:05,379
这是通用的印商

428
00:14:05,379 --> 00:14:08,959
然后如果是买苹果的话

429
00:14:08,959 --> 00:14:11,079
就是你像我一样

430
00:14:11,079 --> 00:14:12,719
平时在这个苹果的机器上面

431
00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:14,859
在上面比如说办公编程

432
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是吧

433
00:14:15,599 --> 00:14:16,879
同时你希望能跑个什么

434
00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:17,719
Deep Seek with Flush

435
00:14:17,719 --> 00:14:19,059
或者说跑个什么

436
00:14:19,059 --> 00:14:20,479
轻吻3.8 20GB

437
00:14:20,479 --> 00:14:22,639
那都可以的

438
00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:23,519
它都能做得到

439
00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:28,559
当然它8万多的价格

440
00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:30,459
也是这三个方案中最贵的

441
00:14:30,459 --> 00:14:30,959
单击啊

442
00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:31,859
单击就8万

443
00:14:31,859 --> 00:14:33,599
这个就是见仁见智的

444
00:14:33,599 --> 00:14:34,199
看你怎么想

445
00:14:34,199 --> 00:14:39,299
如果说你有这个相关疑问

446
00:14:39,299 --> 00:14:40,479
相关的话题想要讨论

447
00:14:40,479 --> 00:14:41,679
就欢迎到论坛中

448
00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:43,439
去看看大神们是怎么测的

449
00:14:43,439 --> 00:14:45,219
他们已经有的正式设备

450
00:14:45,219 --> 00:14:46,119
测试出来的数据

451
00:14:46,119 --> 00:14:48,639
这个比我在这里逼比较更有价值

452
00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:49,379
是吧

453
00:14:49,379 --> 00:14:51,779
我也这个让AI整理了我们论坛的帖子

454
00:14:51,779 --> 00:14:53,559
把他们这个官方的

455
00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:55,459
硬件规格数据都整理到了

456
00:14:55,459 --> 00:14:57,099
这个硬件的这个专业中去

457
00:14:57,099 --> 00:14:59,939
也把我们论坛中相关测试的帖子

458
00:14:59,939 --> 00:15:00,879
给附带进去了

459
00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:02,379
链接都加到这些专业中去了

460
00:15:02,379 --> 00:15:05,359
你们这个点点鼠标就能看得到

461
00:15:05,359 --> 00:15:05,699
是吧

462
00:15:05,699 --> 00:15:08,039
或者在手机上滑一滑屏幕就能看得到

463
00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:10,579
好吧

464
00:15:10,579 --> 00:15:11,399
本期视频就到这里

465
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我们下期再见
