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The state has a big choice to make.
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Will it nominate really an about socialist whose only business
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experience was running a ramen shop into insolvency?
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The answer is, you betcha.
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>> I voted for Francesca Hong.
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Hong.
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>> It's nice to see see someone who's like me.
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Uh, to be in um, in in the office.
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And um, she's a single mom.
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I'm not a single mom, but I was at one point.
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>> She's uh, part of the working class.
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class.
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class.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Mhm.
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>> She's um, um, a woman um, who understands uh,
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women's issues.
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And also she's um, a breath of fresh air here for Wisconsin.
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>> Well, that is your brain on social social media.
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A personal biography of failure is considered a plus among the
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historically illiterate.
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But Wisconsin's in a bind.
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The incumbent Democrat Tony Evers endorsed Hong's opponent David
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Crowley, who himself dropped out of the race, then just got back
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in.
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Now Evers is hitting Hong.
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>> He has spent the whole entire on his his campaign dealing with
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uh, not with the issues, but what what's on the Twitter.
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And I just find that that's not a good way to beat Tom Tiffany.
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>> Well, he's enthralling.
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My God, the the definition of a moribund Tony Evers.
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Well, let's just hope he's right though, because the times they
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are a changing.
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Hong's running on personality and the promise of free stuff.
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And she doesn't care about Tony.
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>> Have you spoken to Evers?
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Evers?
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>> I've not spoken to the governor yet.
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yet.
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It's quite early.
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I want to let him have his coffee first.
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>> Evers, Evers, let's call the whole thing off.
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Now Republicans are seeing all of this play out and think that
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Hong would be a gift to the GOP in November.
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Politico reported that pro-Republican PACs, including one associated
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with the Republican Governors Association, have spent millions
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of dollars to boost Hong in the primary.
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But, this could always backfire.
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So, Wisconsin should not get sidetracked on Hoos's hot takes on
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Thanksgiving or Halloween, as amusing as they are or revealing
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as they are.
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But, they are not the key reasons that socialism itself is dangerous.
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Socialism is designed to kill private industry and spur widespread
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government dependence.
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That's when you lose your freedom.
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freedom.
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You know it's bad when the Washington Post editorial board issued
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a warning a few days ago.
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If Hong is elected, businesses will flee Wisconsin under the crushing
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weight of new taxes and new regulations.
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Adding that, like most socialists, Hong is in denial about the
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costs and consequences of her proposals.
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>> If Hoos, do they leave the state?
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state?
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>> You know, discussing that hypothetical is um a
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little bit uh I'm confused about that.
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However, let's look at all the other policies that we have talked
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about that we have been fighting for with our campaign.
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When there is free childcare, when there is fully funded public
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schools, when there's uh legalization of cannabis,
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I think that we can improve the quality of life for millionaires
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and ensure that they too will be able to live,
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work, and thrive here in our state.
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>> Oh, is that what's going to happen under socialism,
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live, work, and thrive?
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Where is that happening anywhere in the world where true socialism
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actually took root?
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Answer, nowhere.
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Now, the bottom line on socialism, it never changes.
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They're preparing to come for everything you have,
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your home, your car, your air conditioning, your 401k,
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and yes, your factory.
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factory.
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They want it all because you don't deserve any of it.
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You don't deserve the fruits of your labor because,
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by definition, they arose out of the corrupt capitalist system.
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So, if you want to keep more of what you earn,
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fight this with everything you have.
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Take nothing for granted.
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Here to discuss this Wisconsin Congressman Bryan Steil and Evan
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Booker, former Democrat campaign operative.
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Congressman, let's start with you.
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I think it's a mistake for Republicans to kind of laugh this off
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and think that socialism can't win in Wisconsin.
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We certainly hope it does not.
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But these policies lead to ruin and will do to Wisconsin what similar
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policies have already done to Minnesota.
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Your take tonight.
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tonight.
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>> Uh you're you're exactly right.
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Her Her positions are beyond concerning.
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Some of them appear comical, but she believes them.
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She wants to abolish the border, abolish police,
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and unleash and remove people from prisons.
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But when you get to the economic policies,
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it gets even worse.
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She wants to implement a new payroll tax,
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increase taxes,
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which will push employers and jobs out of the state.
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This election in Wisconsin,
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if she wins tonight
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and by all appearances she will,
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is more than just a red versus blue battle.
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This is going to be for the soul of our state.
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Do we want to continue the prosperity and freedoms that we have?
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Or are we going to go down a very dark and dangerous road to socialism
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that she is advocating for?
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>> Evan,
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I think when you think about the the Midwest,
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people forget that American socialism really began in the Midwest.
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I mean,
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the early part of the 1900s,
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you know,
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Eugene Debs,
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he made the trip up to Wisconsin
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and met with the
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editorial uh you know,
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folks up there
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and it was the cool new thing.
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You know,
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we were fighting the rise of socialism for you know,
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much of the 20th century.
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So,
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the idea that this could just be a flash in the pan,
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maybe,
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but I always tell my Republican friends,
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don't laugh this off.
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This is a serious threat to the American Republic as we know it
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today.
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>> Well,
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I think you're right, Laura.
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I think right now people are really hurting financially.
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You know,
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they're struggling to pay for their health care.
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They're struggling to get good jobs.
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They're struggling to pay for their rent.
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And so,
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I think,
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you know,
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when you have somebody like Hong that
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comes along,
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yes,
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she has a ton of baggage.
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I mean,
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this is a woman who said that she was anxious to be around
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white people.
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Wisconsin is a state that is 85% white.
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So,
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you know,
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I'm sure those are going to be playing up on the
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attack ads this fall.
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But,
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at the same time,
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this is a climate where even though she
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has this baggage,
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her message could break through
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because people
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are in real financial pain right now
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and they don't feel like the
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current administration is really paying enough attention to what's
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going on with the economy.
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>> Yeah.
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Well,
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you want to know a way to derail wages rising among
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the middle class?
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Flood the country with 10 million more illegal immigrants
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and kill
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the tariffs that are actually stopping Chinese imports from coming
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into the United States.
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That's a way to kill the American dream real fast.
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Congressman, your Democrat colleague Wesley Bell unseated Cori
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Bush in 2024, able to beat her again last week in the primary there.
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He had a message to some of the far left candidates.
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Watch this.
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>> Working-class families don't want to see police defunded
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and ended.
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We don't, but working-class families who are impacted by crime don't
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want to see prisons abolished.
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At some point, many of these folks in that in that camp have to
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decide, okay, are you with us
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so we can get things done
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or you
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want some different agenda
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that doesn't align with the agenda of
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the overwhelming number of Americans.
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Americans.
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>> Uh interesting point, especially among black voters uh
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in, you know, states across this country,
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maybe not so many in
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Wisconsin,
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but certainly we saw this play out last week uh
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in Michigan.
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>> When you look at the Democratic policies,
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the voters don't want the radical policies.
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policies, the voters don't want the radical policies.
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But the Democratic Party has been hijacked by radical activists
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that are driving forward
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this socialist agenda.
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That is true.
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Americans have many struggles
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right now financially.
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And the siren song
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of the socialist calling
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is attractive to a lot of people.
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of people.
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It's why in this election
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it's going to be so important to go back
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and explain how the Republican policies of reducing taxes,
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on tips,
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on overtime,
8:10.693–8:11.686
on social security
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are so important to making
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life more affordable
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and making this an issue campaign
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in the state of Wisconsin
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and across the country.
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of Wisconsin
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and across the country.
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>> Evan, really quickly,
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15 seconds.
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seconds.
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Republicans have to do more to actually tell the story of socialism
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and why their policies are going to work.
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>> I agree with you and I think that,
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you know,
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to your point about tariffs,
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you know,
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I'm somebody who supports Donald Trump's tariff policies.
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to your point about tariffs,
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you know,
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I'm somebody who supports
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Donald Trump's tariffs policies.
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I think the administration should be out there telling people how
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this is going to bring jobs back
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and explaining the jobs that are
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already coming back.
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I mean,
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I think the messaging needs to be focused on the home front
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right now.
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And that's what I'd like to see them do
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heading into the midterms.
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>> Yeah,
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big time in the realm of conflict
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is a little bit of a struggle in that regard.
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bit of a struggle in that regard.
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Congressman Evan,
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both of you,
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thank you so much.
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>> We turn to several bombshell revelations
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about the Democrat's radical Senate nominee in Michigan.
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Democrats radical Senate nominee in Michigan.
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On social media,
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Abdul El-Sayed portrays an over-the-top,
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happy-go-lucky activist
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loves to sing and dance,
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but in reality,
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El-Sayed's policies,
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guess what?
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And policy positions, his associations, as we already know,
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past comments that paint a very different picture.
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In addition to Haiti, Michigan's storied Mackinac Island,
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there is a long list of other oh wonderful American things that
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Abdul El-Sayed apparently absolutely despises.
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According to the K files, a report on CNN, a now removed video
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from 2024 shows Elsayed complaining, quote, "Fireworks suck."
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suck."
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I love fireworks.
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Anyway, he begged Americans to find a different way to celebrate
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the 4th of July, citing concerns over the environment and children
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and pets.
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But, that's not all.
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In another deleted video from 2022, get this, Elsayed mocking concerns
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surrounding the crisis at our southern border,
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quote claiming that the border, quote, "Doesn't even make the top
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five among issues that people in the US actually care about,
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uh that affect their lives."
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According to the same report.
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Other clips [snorts] show Elsayed calling for the Second Amendment
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to be repealed, replaced with a right to government-run healthcare.
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Uh and the newly nominated Democrat also trashing football over
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its toxic masculinity.
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Take a look.
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>> Football, um is very much associated associated with a,
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you know, particularly masculine and oftentimes toxic,
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toxically masculine, uh culture.
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And so much of it was about you wanted to be able to get back up
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and play for your team.
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That's part of the sport.
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That's part of the sport.
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sport.
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>> All right.
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In a state dominated by the the Michigan Wolverines,
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Michigan State football, the Detroit Lions, uh I don't think that's
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going to go over very well.
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But, according to CNN, Elsayed even compared football to slavery,
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uh openly questioned if the sport could be, quote,
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ethical.
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Apparently, Elsayed also had ethical concerns about cash bail and
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prisons.
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Take a look at this.
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>> We've got We've got uh uh uh policies like money bail,
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uh which basically force people into jail cuz they're poor.
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Um and beyond that, right?
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The the the broader question of um how many people are left languishing
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in uh prison facilities who don't need to be there.
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Any and all efforts to uh get people out of jails and prisons and
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to keep people out of jails and prisons um is policy that we need
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to be investing in particularly right now.
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Uh but this doesn't end when the pandemic's over,
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right?
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We we shouldn't have to have uh a global pandemic to force us to
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to find our humanity.
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Uh this should just be what we do because it's the right thing
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to do.
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>> So, El Sayed has a lot of deeply deeply profound ethical concerns
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about cash bail, football, fireworks, but he has no problem at
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all with his buddy, his pal, his BFF, Assaam Pyke.
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You remember the guy that called for the streets to run red with
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the blood of landlords.
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The guy that, you know, of course, praised 9/11,
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uh blamed America for 9/11, praised Hamas, trashed uh African-Americans,
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uh the guy that dresses up like Chairman Mao, his friend.
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In a statement to CNN, the El Sayed campaign is trying to distance
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their candidate from nearly all of these past uh positions,
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but keep in mind these are recent comments from El Sayed,
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some within the last 2 years.
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Now, much earlier, a 2009 uh as a medical student,
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Abdul El Sayed was interviewed by The New York Times for an article
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about Islamic banking unearthed by The Washington Free Beacon.
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Traditionally, in Islam, interest on loans is prohibited,
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creating the need for alternatives to mortgages.
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But, El Sayed took it a step further, telling the Times,
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quote, "Ultimately, the question is, when I die and stand before
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God and go through everything I did in my life,
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I don't want to say I did it the easy way instead of the Sharia
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compliant way.
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Not because of fear, but because of obligation."
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Again, this was about an article about Islamic mortgage alternatives.
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Anyway, in a statement the El Sayed campaign said,
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quote, "Abdul believes in the separation of church and state while
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he personally strives to live by the rules of his faith,
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as many Americans do.
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Abdul opposes any effort by any religious community to write faith
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laws into the laws of our country."
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What does he stand on Sharia?
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I'd like the answer to that.
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So, what will Michigan voters think about all this?
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this?
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>> So, here's some really fun tape.
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Roll Roll it, Sven.
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>> [applause] >> [applause] >> So, there's a happy bunch.
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You'd almost almost think they discovered a new cleaning product.
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product.
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product.
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>> [laughter] >> Thanks, Jim.
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Jim.
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So, what was that lady signing?
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A new law that puts child predators behind bars?
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A new bill that castrates kidnappers?
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Legislation that makes lethal injection mandatory for anyone who
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listens to a Brian Kilmeade audio book without headphones?
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Nope.
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They're ecstatic that Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey signed
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a bill that allows you to abort a healthy viable baby right up
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to birth if you can find a doctor willing to do it.
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it.
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And given that this is Massachusetts, the same state that protects
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affirmation, that search won't be hard.
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affirmation, that search won't be hard.
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Now, I didn't believe this law was real.
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Abort up to birth?
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Why not wait till they're in kindergarten and get them while they're
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napping?
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What's next?
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Abortion if a fifth grader brings home a bad report card?
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Surely this can't be right, right?
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Nope.
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and found out, yeah, this is real.
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and found out, yeah, this is real.
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The old law banned most abortions after 24 weeks,
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with exceptions for the mother's life or severe fetal problems.
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The new one replaces all that with one gloriously vague standard,
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professional judgment.
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It's like the same standard used by our nation's plastic surgeons.
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No gestational cutoff, no required medical justification.
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Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater,
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which these people is the goal.
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We've gone from rare but legal to if you don't like your baby,
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you can kill your baby.
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Supporters swear this is only about rare tragic cases,
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yet the law doesn't actually require the case to be rare or tragic.
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They also say women no longer have to flee the state to kill a
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healthy baby.
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Makes sense with gas prices being what they are,
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it could get pretty expensive.
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expensive.
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But critics point out the obvious.
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The law itself contains zero guardrails against elective abortions
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on healthy babies.
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The bill deliberately traded limited exceptions for an open-ended
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doctor knows best free-for-all.
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It's like replacing a locked door with a please don't rob us sign,
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then acting shocked when your place is emptier than Jasmine Crockett's
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head.
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Meanwhile, the lefty media will deny that healthy babies with healthy
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moms are being murdered, of course until they say it's a good thing.
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But a woman can decide the day before her due date that she's changed
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her mind, and who knows why?
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All she needs is a doctor who sees abortion as not just routine,
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but a sacrament.
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A lunatic who believes the magic of being a woman isn't that you
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can bear a child, it's that you can eliminate one.
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That's not healthcare, that's infanticide.
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Look, a healthy baby in the final weeks can feel pain,
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react to the world, and survive outside the womb with medical care.
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care.
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We call killing a newborn murder.
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Doing it 5 minutes earlier inside the womb only means the crime
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scene has better lighting and a nicer waiting room.
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Because it's a child, outsourcing your guilt to a doctor doesn't
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change that.
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When the law shrugs and says we need to keep the requirements open-ended
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cuz we just don't know what the reason could be to abort,
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you see where this flexibility leads.
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It's just another step toward the ultimate amoral bottom.
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We might already be there.
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The applauding women, they're like mullahs celebrating public executions.
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The party line always comes ahead of the individual.
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individual.
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And so a class of humans becomes disposable in a moral free fall.
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Cuz if you can't see the baby baby, you can murder it.
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Oh, they'll pull out all the stops to defend a death row killer
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or a drunk illegal who runs over a teen, but an inconvenient child,
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that kid's doomed before his first day on Earth.
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>> LOOK WHO WE GOT.
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TONIGHT'S GUEST.
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>> [applause]
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>> [applause]
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>> HE USUALLY TRAVELS WITH six background
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background dancers.
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Also making money off Fox Business, CHARLES PAYNE.
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SHE'S A FINANCIAL CORRESPONDENT.
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Proof that one woman [music] could do math.
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New York Post COLUMNIST LYDIA MOYNIHAN.
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>> [cheering]
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>> [cheering]
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>> [cheering]
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[applause]
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[applause]
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>> WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BOOK HIM anymore anymore because they're
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building a school 200 yards away.
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Co-hosts of the Anthony and Jim Joe podcast, JIM NORTON.
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>> [cheering]
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>> [cheering]
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>> [cheering]
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[applause]
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[applause]
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>> AND SHE WENT FROM MICKEY MOUSE to the the White House.
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Former Disney star and Trump White House official,
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Caroline Sunshine.
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Sunshine.
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Sunshine.
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>> [applause and cheering]
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>> Charles, I didn't believe this.
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Do you you have to I had to do my own research,
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which you know, Charles, I'm against.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And I had to I didn't believe this.
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Is Is this like mind-boggling?
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>> It's uh it's beyond mind-boggling.
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I got got goosebumps as you were doing that read.
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It's it's uh you know, so tough.
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Listen, I believe life begins in conception, right?
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And and we had in this country the sort of compromise that okay,
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it's a woman's right but you have a limit on this thing,
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right?
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And uh you know, it's an unsettling compromise maybe for everyone,
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but this is murder.
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Bottom line, this is out and out murder.
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And to celebrate it, I could I guess that could watch them they
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probably they probably sit around and watch videos of baby seals
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getting clubbed and cheer that because that's how disheartening
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this whole thing is.
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[snorts]
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>> It does feel like, Charles, that it's it's almost a
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religion in the sense that they have to show that public glee.
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It's like we have to be in agreement and so that if a woman hears
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about this and feels that it's wrong, it's your problem because
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look, there's 20 women there and they're all politicians who think
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this is great.
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>> Yeah, well, well, uh I think I think women probably are going
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to most women aren't going to let that impact them.
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That's probably to assuage their own guilt, you know,
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the the fact of the matter is all those women there cannot feel
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good about it.
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If you look into their eyes and into their souls,
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they cannot feel good about this,
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but they're long for the charade
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and that's all this is is a charade,
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but it's a deadly charade.
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>> Mm.
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Lady, do you have any good abortion abortion abortion jokes?
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jokes?
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jokes?
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>> [laughter]
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>> I was counting on you to do that,
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Greg.
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Greg.
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I feel like that was a missed opportunity.
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opportunity.
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>> one.
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Knock knock.
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knock.
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>> Who's there?
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there?
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>> You'll never know.
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>> Yeah, it's it's what.
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At what point is abortion indistinguishable
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from infanticide?
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They keep moving it and moving it.
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>> And to think,
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I mean, there's babies that are born weeks
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or months earlier that make it in the ICU,
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and the parents,
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because they love their child,
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will do everything they possibly
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can to keep that baby on life support,
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but I guess if you just
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are unlucky enough to have a parent who decides,
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"Not feeling anymore,"
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you're going to be literally discarded.
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and I mean this is grim stuff.
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I also think this kind of speaks to a larger issue on the left
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of the sort of authoritarian streak that we're seeing
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that it's
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not enough to be tolerant of what they want to do.
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You have to celebrate it.
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You have to applaud.
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You have to give it a standing ovation
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and I'm old enough to remember
21:27.423–21:30.595
when those coexist bumper stickers were really popular growing
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up outside Portland, Oregon.
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Oregon.
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Now the left doesn't care about coexisting.
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They want to force whatever their agenda is on everybody else
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and
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this line about oh we just want a woman and her doctor to make
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this decision.
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No, you also want taxpayers to pay for it, right?
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You want all of us to be part of it
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and you want to teach children
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in public schools that this is a good thing.
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So this isn't even just something that they want for themselves.
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They want everyone else to be complicit.
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>> Yeah
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and you know what the thing is is they're going to say
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well you could trust a doctor
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but the reason why I included plastic
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surgeons is because all those guys are MDs
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but if you pay somebody
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enough they will ruin your face.
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face.
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>> I mean think about all of the TikTok videos that went so
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viral of health care professionals saying they would try and murder
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an ICE officer, right?
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Celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder.
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There's some, there's some bad people out there in the industry.
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>> Yeah.
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So Carolyn Sunshine, what a bright, bright name for this topic.
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Uh, how do you get?
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I was trying to think of an analogy for a
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liberal to understand this.
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This would be like, uh, gun advocates, uh, that they don't just pass
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an open carry.
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carry.
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Uh, you can actually carry a loaded machine gun anywhere you want,
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into bars, schools and police stations.
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Uh, we would no, make it a grenade launcher.
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That's kind of what it, it's like there's absolutely no limitations
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whatsoever on what you can do.
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>> Yeah.
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No, I was told this was a comedy, comedy, comedy show.
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show.
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show.
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>> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And the last time I was here, we
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talked, talked about rape allegations, and now we're talking about
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killing children, and I don't know.
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No, I'm kidding.
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Um, um, but, you know what's interesting?
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I saw that clip, and in it she goes, you know,
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you have to think about all the people that will never meet and
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that will never know that this law will affect.
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And I'm thinking, yeah, you could start with the unborn children,
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although I don't think that's who she was talking about.
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You know, we talk a lot about women with this issue.
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It is interesting, 'cause if a guy, right, were to abandon his kid,
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he's, he's a deadbeat dad.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Mhm.
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>> But if a woman abandons her kid, it's, it's, it's pro-choice.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Mhm.
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>> And it's just interesting because, because you know,
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it takes two people to make a baby.
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baby.
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baby.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Mhm.
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>> One of them's a man.
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Um, I could say that on this network.
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I don't think I could say that on other networks, um, um, 'cause everybody's
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sane.
23:48.548–23:51.136
Um, but it takes two people to make a baby.
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baby.
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The second the child's born, the man has custodial rights that
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he has to fulfill, but there's a 9-month period where he doesn't
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get any say.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And I just think it's such a human, I, I mean,
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again, this is a comedy show, but, but I've had people in my life
24:05.147–24:09.031
that I love who have been affected by this, who have made that
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decision.
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And I'll tell you, I don't think it's something to be glamorized
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or taken lightly.
24:13.176–24:16.337
I have seen the mental health impact that it has on people,
24:16.347–24:19.508
that it's a decision that stays with people for a lifetime,
24:19.518–24:20.550
and it causes a lot of pain,
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and I don't think there's anything
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empowering or to be glamorized about it.
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That's just. >> Why don't they?
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I don't understand how, how, they wouldn't
24:28.745–24:31.328
mention the exceptions in the law?
24:31.338–24:32.989
They just said, you know what?
24:32.999–24:35.062
You know, you know, it, they'll be rare exceptions.
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Well, like what?
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And they won't say because they want to leave that open.
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It's so bizarre.
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>> Yeah, well, that's also, that's part of, of it.
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They're not seeing it the way that that you and I are seeing it.
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>> TIM, HOW YOU DOING?
24:46.539–24:46.619
DOING?
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>> GREG, never better.
24:47.767–24:47.847
better.
24:47.847–24:49.518
>> I KNOW.
24:49.528–24:49.608
KNOW.
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I HEAR YOU GOT A NEW SHOW.
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>> I do, yes.
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Uh, my friend Anthony and I, I are hosting a comedy podcast where
24:54.830–24:56.643
we offer 10-MONTH ABORTIONS.
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>> [laughter] >> UH NO, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY.
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WE JUST JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW the country got so radical.
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radical.
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radical.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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Like we we love radical thinking and and then we complain like
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we can't comprehend the radical thinking.
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Like this is insane.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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And and there are also people who who believe that an 11-year-old
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who's been raped should be forced to carry a baby.
25:16.010–25:20.650
Like there's no We allow these people to to to kind of run the
25:20.660–25:22.610
show and then we all just sit back and complain and go,
25:22.620–25:24.114
"How did it all get so crazy?"
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>> Mhm.
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>> Mhm.
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Like I mean I've spoken at a lot of of women's rights rallies.
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Um they they think I'm a lesbian.
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And I you know,
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this might not be be popular, but I think abortion should be up
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to the guy.
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you you deal with it.
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you you deal with it.
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If not, what the hell now?
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>> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> THAT'S MY OPINION.
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HOLD ON.
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SIR, I'M [laughter] KIDDING.
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YOU CAN WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU SAW THE GODFATHER?
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I CAN'T BELIEVE AL PACINO'S IN THE MAFIA.
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>> [laughter] >> OH [laughter] MY GOD.
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GOD.
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>> ALL RIGHT.
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The state has a big choice to make.
州政府面臨一個重大抉擇。
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Will it nominate really an about socialist whose only business
它是否會提名一位真正對社會主義一無所知、
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experience was running a ramen shop into insolvency?
唯一經驗是經營拉麵店導致破產的人進入政壇?
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The answer is, you betcha.
答案是,當然會。
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>> I voted for Francesca Hong.
>> 我投給了法蘭西絲卡·洪。
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Hong.
洪。
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>> It's nice to see see someone who's like me.
>> 看到像我這樣的人進入辦公室,感覺真好。
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Uh, to be in um, in in the office.
嗯,能在辦公室裡,嗯,在辦公室裡。
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And um, she's a single mom.
而且嗯,她是單親媽媽。
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I'm not a single mom, but I was at one point.
我不是單親媽媽,但我曾經是。
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>> She's uh, part of the working class.
>> 她是,嗯,勞工階層的一部分。
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class.
階層。
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class.
階層。
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>> Mhm.
>> 嗯嗯。
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>> Mhm.
>> 嗯嗯。
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>> She's um, um, a woman um, who understands uh,
>> 她是,嗯,嗯,一位女性,嗯,了解,
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women's issues.
女性議題。
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And also she's um, a breath of fresh air here for Wisconsin.
而且她也為威斯康星州帶來了一股清新之風。
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>> Well, that is your brain on social social media.
>> 嗯,這就是你的大腦在社交媒體上的運作方式。
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A personal biography of failure is considered a plus among the
對於歷史上缺乏常識的人來說,個人的失敗傳記被視為加分項。
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historically illiterate.
歷史上缺乏識字能力。
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But Wisconsin's in a bind.
但威斯康辛州陷入了困境。
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The incumbent Democrat Tony Evers endorsed Hong's opponent David
現任民主黨州長托尼·埃弗斯(Tony Evers)支持洪(Hong)的對手大衛·克勞利(David Crowley),
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Crowley, who himself dropped out of the race, then just got back
克勞利本人已退出競選,但隨後又重返選戰。
1:04.349–1:05.040
in.
現在埃弗斯正在攻擊洪。
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Now Evers is hitting Hong.
>> 他整個競選活動都在處理
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>> He has spent the whole entire on his his campaign dealing with
嗯,不是處理議題,而是處理推特上的事情。
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uh, not with the issues, but what what's on the Twitter.
我認為這不是擊敗湯姆·蒂芬尼(Tom Tiffany)的好方法。
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And I just find that that's not a good way to beat Tom Tiffany.
我只覺得這樣不是擊敗湯姆·蒂菲的好方法。
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>> Well, he's enthralling.
天啊,這正是無生氣的托尼·埃弗斯的定義。
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My God, the the definition of a moribund Tony Evers.
嗯,我們就希望他是對的,因為時代正在改變。
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Well, let's just hope he's right though, because the times they
洪憑藉個人魅力和免費贈品的承諾進行競選。
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are a changing.
她不在乎托尼。
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Hong's running on personality and the promise of free stuff.
洪以個人魅力和免費福利的承諾為競選基礎。
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And she doesn't care about Tony.
而且她根本不在乎東尼
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>> Have you spoken to Evers?
>> 我還沒跟州長談過。
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Evers?
還沒。
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>> I've not spoken to the governor yet.
>> 我還沒跟州長談過。
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yet.
還沒。
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It's quite early.
現在還早。
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I want to let him have his coffee first.
我想讓他先喝杯咖啡。
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>> Evers, Evers, let's call the whole thing off.
>>埃弗斯,埃弗斯,我們把整件事取消吧。
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Now Republicans are seeing all of this play out and think that
現在共和黨人看到這些發展,認為
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Hong would be a gift to the GOP in November.
洪在十一月會是共和黨的一份禮物。
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Politico reported that pro-Republican PACs, including one associated
《政治報》報導稱,支持共和黨的政治行動委員會,包括一個與
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with the Republican Governors Association, have spent millions
共和黨州長協會有關的組織,已花費數百萬
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of dollars to boost Hong in the primary.
美元來提升洪在初選中的聲勢。
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But, this could always backfire.
但是,這始終可能適得其反。
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So, Wisconsin should not get sidetracked on Hoos's hot takes on
因此,威斯康星州不應該因為洪在
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Thanksgiving or Halloween, as amusing as they are or revealing
感恩節或萬聖節的熱門觀點而分心,無論這些觀點有多有趣或揭示
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as they are.
了什麼。
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But, they are not the key reasons that socialism itself is dangerous.
但是,它們並不是社會主義本身危險的關鍵原因。
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Socialism is designed to kill private industry and spur widespread
社會主義旨在扼殺私人產業並促進廣泛的
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government dependence.
政府依賴
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That's when you lose your freedom.
到那時你就會失去自由。
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freedom.
自由。
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You know it's bad when the Washington Post editorial board issued
你知道情況有多糟,因為《華盛頓郵報》編輯委員會在
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a warning a few days ago.
幾天前發布了警告。
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If Hong is elected, businesses will flee Wisconsin under the crushing
如果洪當選,企業將逃離威斯康星州,承受著
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weight of new taxes and new regulations.
新稅收和新法規的沉重負擔。
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Adding that, like most socialists, Hong is in denial about the
補充說明,像大多數社會主義者一樣,洪對其提案的成本與後果採取否認態度。
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costs and consequences of her proposals.
她提案的成本與後果。
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>> If Hoos, do they leave the state?
>> 如果霍斯(Hoos)選上了,他們會離開這個州嗎?
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state?
州?
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>> You know, discussing that hypothetical is um a
>> 你知道,討論那個假設性問題,嗯,我對此感到困惑。
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little bit uh I'm confused about that.
有一點呃,我對此感到困惑。
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However, let's look at all the other policies that we have talked
然而,讓我們來看看我們一直在競選中爭取的其他所有政策。
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about that we have been fighting for with our campaign.
我們一直在競選中爭取的其他所有政策。
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When there is free childcare, when there is fully funded public
當有免費的托兒服務,當有全額資助的公立學校,當大麻合法化時,
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schools, when there's uh legalization of cannabis,
當有免費托兒服務,當有全額資助的公立學校,當大麻合法化時,
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I think that we can improve the quality of life for millionaires
我認為我們可以提升百萬富翁的生活品質,
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and ensure that they too will be able to live,
並確保他們也能在這裡生活,
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work, and thrive here in our state.
工作,並在我們州繁榮發展。
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>> Oh, is that what's going to happen under socialism,
>> 哦,這就是社會主義下會發生的事嗎?
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live, work, and thrive?
生活、工作、繁榮發展?
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Where is that happening anywhere in the world where true socialism
世界上哪裡有真正的社會主義真正扎根的地方,
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actually took root?
真正扎根的地方?
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Answer, nowhere.
答案: nowhere(沒有地方)。
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Now, the bottom line on socialism, it never changes.
現在,社會主義的底線從不變動。
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They're preparing to come for everything you have,
他們準備來拿走你擁有的一切,
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your home, your car, your air conditioning, your 401k,
你的家、你的車、你的冷氣、你的401(k)退休金帳戶
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and yes, your factory.
沒錯,還有你的工廠。
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factory.
工廠。
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They want it all because you don't deserve any of it.
他們想要全部,因為你不配擁有其中任何一樣。
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You don't deserve the fruits of your labor because,
你不配享有勞動的成果,因為
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by definition, they arose out of the corrupt capitalist system.
根據定義,它們源自腐敗的資本主義體系。
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So, if you want to keep more of what you earn,
所以,如果你想保留更多勞動所得,
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fight this with everything you have.
就要傾盡全力對抗。
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Take nothing for granted.
不要把任何事視為理所當然。
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Here to discuss this Wisconsin Congressman Bryan Steil and Evan
今晚與我們討論此議題的是威斯康辛州國會議員布萊恩·斯蒂爾以及前民主黨競選工作人員伊凡·布克
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Booker, former Democrat campaign operative.
布克,前民主黨競選工作人員。
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Congressman, let's start with you.
國會議員,我們從你開始。
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I think it's a mistake for Republicans to kind of laugh this off
我認為共和黨人對此一笑置之
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and think that socialism can't win in Wisconsin.
並認為社會主義在威斯康辛州無法勝選,這是個錯誤。
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We certainly hope it does not.
我們當然希望不會如此。
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But these policies lead to ruin and will do to Wisconsin what similar
但這些政策會導致毀滅,並將對威斯康辛州造成類似
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policies have already done to Minnesota.
政策已對明尼蘇達州造成的影響。
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Your take tonight.
請分享你今晚的看法。
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tonight.
今晚的看法。
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>> Uh you're you're exactly right.
>> 嗯,你說得完全正確。
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Her Her positions are beyond concerning.
她的立場令人極度擔憂。
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Some of them appear comical, but she believes them.
其中一些立場看似荒謬,但她卻深信不疑。
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She wants to abolish the border, abolish police,
她希望廢除邊境、廢除警察,
4:35.138–4:38.942
and unleash and remove people from prisons.
並釋放及撤除監獄中的人員。
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But when you get to the economic policies,
但當談到經濟政策時,
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it gets even worse.
情況會更加糟糕。
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She wants to implement a new payroll tax,
她希望實施新的薪資稅,
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increase taxes,
增加稅收,
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which will push employers and jobs out of the state.
這將迫使雇主和就業機會離開該州。
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This election in Wisconsin,
這次威斯康辛州的選舉,
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if she wins tonight
如果她今晚勝選
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and by all appearances she will,
而且從各種跡象來看她確實會勝選,
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is more than just a red versus blue battle.
這就不僅僅是紅藍兩黨的對抗。
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This is going to be for the soul of our state.
這將是關於我們州靈魂的爭奪。
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Do we want to continue the prosperity and freedoms that we have?
我們是否要繼續維持現有的繁榮與自由?
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Or are we going to go down a very dark and dangerous road to socialism
還是我們將走上她所倡導的那條非常黑暗且危險的社會主義道路?
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that she is advocating for?
她所倡導的那條道路?
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>> Evan,
>> 伊凡,
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I think when you think about the the Midwest,
我認為當人們想到中西部時,
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people forget that American socialism really began in the Midwest.
人們往往忘記了美國的社會主義其實起源於中西部。
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I mean,
我的意思是,
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the early part of the 1900s,
二十世紀初
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you know,
你知道,
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Eugene Debs,
尤金·德布斯,
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he made the trip up to Wisconsin
他前往威斯康辛州
5:18.674–5:19.692
and met with the
並與當地的編輯團隊會面
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editorial uh you know,
編輯部,你知道,
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folks up there
編輯團隊,你知道,
5:21.832–5:23.465
and it was the cool new thing.
這是最酷的新事物。
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You know,
這當時是很酷的新潮流。
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we were fighting the rise of socialism for you know,
我們正在對抗社會主義的崛起,你知道,
5:26.479–5:28.366
much of the 20th century.
我們為了對抗社會主義的崛起,
5:28.376–5:28.517
So,
在二十世紀的大部分時間裡都在奮鬥。
5:28.517–5:31.330
the idea that this could just be a flash in the pan,
認為這可能只是曇花一現,
5:31.340–5:31.926
maybe,
認為這可能只是曇花一現,
5:31.926–5:35.792
but I always tell my Republican friends,
但我總是告訴我的共和黨朋友,
5:35.802–5:37.213
don't laugh this off.
但我總是告訴我的共和黨朋友,
5:37.223–5:41.355
This is a serious threat to the American Republic as we know it
這對我們所知的美國共和國構成嚴重威脅
5:41.365–5:44.319
today.
這對我們所知的現代美國共和國來說,
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>> Well,
是一個嚴肅的威脅。
5:44.534–5:45.613
I think you're right, Laura.
我認為你說得對,Laura。
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I think right now people are really hurting financially.
我認為現在人們在財務上真的非常痛苦。
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You know,
你知道,
5:48.822–5:50.645
they're struggling to pay for their health care.
他們在負擔醫療費用方面掙扎。
5:50.655–5:53.078
They're struggling to get good jobs.
他們在尋找好工作方面掙扎。
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They're struggling to pay for their rent.
他們在支付房租方面掙扎。
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And so,
所以,
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I think,
我認為,
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you know,
你知道,
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when you have somebody like Hong that
當你遇到像 Hong 這樣的人
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comes along,
出現時,
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yes,
是的,
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she has a ton of baggage.
她確實有很多包袱。
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I mean,
我的意思是,
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this is a woman who said that she was anxious to be around
這位女性曾表示她很渴望與
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white people.
白人在一起。
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Wisconsin is a state that is 85% white.
威斯康星州是一個白人佔 85% 的州。
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So,
所以,
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you know,
你知道,
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I'm sure those are going to be playing up on the
我確定這些會在秋季的攻擊性廣告中被大肆渲染
6:11.556–6:13.102
attack ads this fall.
今年秋天的攻擊性廣告。
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But,
但是,
6:13.361–6:14.438
at the same time,
與此同時,
6:14.438–6:17.091
this is a climate where even though she
這是一個這樣的環境:儘管她
6:17.101–6:18.267
has this baggage,
帶著這些包袱,
6:18.267–6:20.516
her message could break through
她的訊息仍可能突破重圍,
6:20.516–6:21.599
because people
因為人們
6:21.609–6:23.606
are in real financial pain right now
目前正經歷真實的經濟痛苦,
6:23.606–6:25.070
and they don't feel like the
而且他們覺得
6:25.080–6:28.980
current administration is really paying enough attention to what's
現在的政府確實沒有投入足夠的注意力去關注經濟狀況
6:28.990–6:31.094
going on with the economy.
經濟狀況的發展。
6:31.104–6:31.333
>> Yeah.
>> 沒錯。
6:31.343–6:31.672
Well,
嗯,
6:31.672–6:35.049
you want to know a way to derail wages rising among
你知道有什麼方法可以阻礙中產階級薪資上漲嗎?
6:35.059–6:36.320
the middle class?
讓全國多湧入一千萬名非法移民,
6:36.330–6:39.325
Flood the country with 10 million more illegal immigrants
向全國傾倒多達1000萬名非法移民
6:39.325–6:39.753
and kill
那些實際上阻止中國進口商品進入
6:39.763–6:42.973
the tariffs that are actually stopping Chinese imports from coming
那些實際上阻止中國進口商品進入的關稅
6:42.983–6:43.990
into the United States.
這就是快速扼殺美國夢的方法。
6:44.000–6:46.594
That's a way to kill the American dream real fast.
這是一種快速扼殺美國夢的方式。
6:46.604–6:49.357
Congressman, your Democrat colleague Wesley Bell unseated Cori
眾議員,你的民主黨同事韋斯利·貝爾在2024年擊敗了科里·布什,
6:49.367–6:53.523
Bush in 2024, able to beat her again last week in the primary there.
並在上周的初選中再次擊敗了她。
6:53.533–6:55.726
He had a message to some of the far left candidates.
他對一些極左翼候選人發表了訊息。
6:55.736–6:57.048
Watch this.
請看這段影片。
6:57.058–7:01.170
>> Working-class families don't want to see police defunded
>> 工薪階層家庭不希望看到警察預算被削減
7:01.180–7:01.770
and ended.
並被廢除。
7:01.780–7:06.279
We don't, but working-class families who are impacted by crime don't
我們不希望這樣,但受犯罪影響的工薪階層家庭不希望
7:06.289–7:08.493
want to see prisons abolished.
看到監獄被廢除。
7:08.503–7:12.816
At some point, many of these folks in that in that camp have to
在某個時候,那些陣營中的許多人必須
7:12.826–7:14.555
decide, okay, are you with us
做出決定,好吧,你是跟我們一起
7:14.555–7:16.127
so we can get things done
以便推動事務進展,
7:16.127–7:16.520
or you
還是你
7:16.530–7:18.739
want some different agenda
想要不同的議程,
7:18.739–7:21.621
that doesn't align with the agenda of
這與大多數美國選民的議程不符
7:21.631–7:24.378
the overwhelming number of Americans.
絕大多數美國人的議程不一致。
7:24.388–7:24.468
Americans.
美國人。
7:24.468–7:28.059
>> Uh interesting point, especially among black voters uh
>> 嗯,這觀點很有趣,特別是在全國各州的
7:28.069–7:30.167
in, you know, states across this country,
在,你知道的,這個國家各州的
7:30.167–7:31.216
maybe not so many in
在威斯康辛州可能沒那麼多,但我們確實看到上週在密歇根州發生了這種情況
7:31.226–7:32.489
Wisconsin,
威斯康星州可能沒那麼多,
7:32.489–7:37.823
but certainly we saw this play out last week uh
但我們確實看到上週在
7:37.823–7:39.227
in Michigan.
密歇根州發生了這種情況。
7:39.237–7:40.900
>> When you look at the Democratic policies,
>> 當你檢視民主黨的政策時,
7:40.900–7:42.612
the voters don't want the radical policies.
選民不想要激進的政策。
7:42.622–7:46.481
policies, the voters don't want the radical policies.
政策,選民不想要激進的政策。
7:46.491–7:50.229
But the Democratic Party has been hijacked by radical activists
但民主黨已被激進的活動人士劫持,
7:50.239–7:51.757
that are driving forward
推動這項
7:51.757–7:53.130
this socialist agenda.
這項社會主義議程。
7:53.140–7:54.168
That is true.
這確實是事實。
7:54.178–7:55.994
Americans have many struggles
美國人面臨許多困境
7:55.994–7:57.321
right now financially.
財務上面臨許多困境。
7:57.331–7:58.207
And the siren song
而社會主義呼喚的
7:58.207–7:59.434
of the socialist calling
社會主義的呼喚
7:59.434–8:00.953
is attractive to a lot of people.
對許多人來說很有吸引力。
8:00.963–8:01.672
of people.
的人。
8:01.682–8:02.867
It's why in this election
這就是為什麼在這次選舉中
8:02.867–8:04.703
it's going to be so important to go back
這次選舉中,回到過去並解釋共和黨減稅政策的重要性不言而喻
8:04.713–8:09.690
and explain how the Republican policies of reducing taxes,
並說明共和黨減稅政策的內容
8:09.700–8:10.072
on tips,
小費稅,
8:10.072–8:10.693
on overtime,
加班費稅,
8:10.693–8:11.686
on social security
對社會安全稅
8:11.686–8:13.052
are so important to making
至關重要,能讓
8:13.062–8:13.747
life more affordable
生活負擔更輕
8:13.747–8:14.812
and making this an issue campaign
並將此議題變成
8:14.812–8:15.610
in the state of Wisconsin
威斯康辛州的
8:15.610–8:16.333
and across the country.
全國性選舉議題。
8:16.343–8:17.088
of Wisconsin
威斯康辛州
8:17.088–8:18.374
and across the country.
以及全國各地。
8:18.384–8:19.522
>> Evan, really quickly,
>> 艾文,請快一點,
8:19.522–8:20.125
15 seconds.
15秒。
8:20.135–8:20.215
seconds.
秒。
8:20.215–8:23.697
Republicans have to do more to actually tell the story of socialism
共和黨人必須多做些努力,實際講述社會主義的故事
8:23.707–8:27.979
and why their policies are going to work.
以及為什麼他們的政策會奏效。
8:27.989–8:28.346
>> I agree with you and I think that,
>> 我同意你的看法,我認為,
8:28.346–8:28.442
you know,
你知道,
8:28.442–8:28.758
to your point about tariffs,
關於關稅的觀點,
8:28.758–8:28.854
you know,
你知道,
8:28.854–8:29.500
I'm somebody who supports Donald Trump's tariff policies.
我是支持唐納·川普關稅政策的人。
8:29.510–8:30.611
to your point about tariffs,
關於關稅的觀點,
8:30.611–8:30.946
you know,
你知道,
8:30.946–8:31.951
I'm somebody who supports
我是支持唐納德·特朗普關稅政策的人
8:31.961–8:33.922
Donald Trump's tariffs policies.
唐納·川普關稅政策的人。
8:33.932–8:37.504
I think the administration should be out there telling people how
我認為政府應該向民眾說明這將如何讓工作機會回流,並解釋已經回流的工作機會。
8:37.514–8:39.010
this is going to bring jobs back
這將如何讓工作機會回流
8:39.010–8:40.564
and explaining the jobs that are
並說明這些工作機會
8:40.574–8:42.134
already coming back.
已經回流的就業機會。
8:42.144–8:42.462
I mean,
我的意思是,
8:42.462–8:45.515
I think the messaging needs to be focused on the home front
我認為目前的訊息傳遞應聚焦於國內
8:45.525–8:46.441
right now.
現在。
8:46.451–8:48.002
And that's what I'd like to see them do
這也是我希望他們在
8:48.002–8:49.178
heading into the midterms.
中期選舉前所做的事。
8:49.188–8:49.386
>> Yeah,
>> 是的,
8:49.386–8:50.720
big time in the realm of conflict
在衝突領域方面
8:50.720–8:52.450
is a little bit of a struggle in that regard.
在這方面有點困難
8:52.460–8:54.160
bit of a struggle in that regard.
這方面有點困難。
8:54.170–8:55.104
Congressman Evan,
眾議員伊萬,
8:55.104–8:55.665
both of you,
兩位,
8:55.665–8:56.537
thank you so much.
非常感謝。
8:56.547–8:57.859
>> We turn to several bombshell revelations
>> 我們將轉向幾個重磅揭露
8:57.859–8:59.620
about the Democrat's radical Senate nominee in Michigan.
關於民主黨在密歇根州的激進參議院候選人。
8:59.630–9:02.456
Democrats radical Senate nominee in Michigan.
密歇根州民主黨激進參議員候選人。
9:02.466–9:03.825
On social media,
在社群媒體上,
9:03.825–9:07.170
Abdul El-Sayed portrays an over-the-top,
阿卜杜勒·艾爾-薩耶德塑造了一個誇張的、
9:07.180–9:08.834
happy-go-lucky activist
樂天派的活動人士形象,
9:08.834–9:10.406
loves to sing and dance,
喜歡唱歌跳舞,
9:10.416–9:11.760
but in reality,
但在現實中,
9:11.760–9:13.553
El-Sayed's policies,
艾爾-薩耶德的政策,
9:13.553–9:14.561
guess what?
猜猜看?
9:14.571–9:18.498
And policy positions, his associations, as we already know,
以及政策立場、他的人際關係,正如我們所知,
9:18.508–9:21.449
past comments that paint a very different picture.
還有過去發表的言論,呈現出截然不同的畫面。
9:21.459–9:26.000
In addition to Haiti, Michigan's storied Mackinac Island,
除了海地,還有密歇根州歷史悠久的麥基諾島,
9:26.010–9:29.793
there is a long list of other oh wonderful American things that
還有一長串其他「美妙的」美國事物,
9:29.803–9:33.529
Abdul El-Sayed apparently absolutely despises.
阿卜杜勒·艾爾-薩耶德顯然極度鄙視。
9:33.539–9:38.588
According to the K files, a report on CNN, a now removed video
根據 K 檔案,CNN 的一份報導指出,一段現已刪除的 2024 年影片
9:38.598–9:42.920
from 2024 shows Elsayed complaining, quote, "Fireworks suck."
顯示艾爾-薩耶德抱怨道:「煙花爛透了。」
9:42.930–9:43.010
suck."
爛透了。」
9:43.010–9:44.236
I love fireworks.
我喜歡煙火。
9:44.246–9:47.977
Anyway, he begged Americans to find a different way to celebrate
總之,他懇請美國人尋找不同的慶祝方式,
9:47.987–9:52.719
the 4th of July, citing concerns over the environment and children
7月4日,引用對環境和兒童的擔憂
9:52.729–9:53.764
and pets.
以及寵物的擔憂。
9:53.774–9:54.851
But, that's not all.
但,這還不是全部。
9:54.861–10:00.821
In another deleted video from 2022, get this, Elsayed mocking concerns
在另一段2022年的已刪除影片中,聽好了,艾薩德嘲諷了
10:00.831–10:03.398
surrounding the crisis at our southern border,
關於我們南部邊境危機的擔憂,
10:03.408–10:07.080
quote claiming that the border, quote, "Doesn't even make the top
引述稱邊境問題,引述,「根本沒有進入美國民眾真正關心、影響他們生活的問題前五名,」
10:07.090–10:10.703
five among issues that people in the US actually care about,
美國人真正關心問題的前五名,
10:10.713–10:12.541
uh that affect their lives."
影響他們生活的問題前五名。」
10:12.551–10:14.515
According to the same report.
根據同一份報告。
10:14.525–10:18.154
Other clips [snorts] show Elsayed calling for the Second Amendment
其他片段[噴鼻息]顯示艾薩德呼籲廢除第二修正案
10:18.164–10:23.211
to be repealed, replaced with a right to government-run healthcare.
取而代之的是由政府運營的醫療保健權利。
10:23.221–10:27.122
Uh and the newly nominated Democrat also trashing football over
這位新提名的民主黨人也抨擊美式足球
10:27.132–10:29.256
its toxic masculinity.
因其有毒的男子氣概。
10:29.266–10:30.500
Take a look.
來看看。
10:30.510–10:33.556
>> Football, um is very much associated associated with a,
>> 美式足球,嗯,非常強烈地與一種,
10:33.566–10:37.223
you know, particularly masculine and oftentimes toxic,
你知道的,特別陽剛且經常有毒的,
10:37.233–10:39.450
toxically masculine, uh culture.
有毒的男子氣概,文化密切相關。
10:39.460–10:43.307
And so much of it was about you wanted to be able to get back up
而且其中很大一部分是關於你想能夠重新站起來
10:43.317–10:44.341
and play for your team.
為你的球隊比賽。
10:44.351–10:48.069
That's part of the sport.
這是運動的一部分。
10:48.079–10:50.435
That's part of the sport.
這是運動的一部分。
10:50.445–10:50.525
sport.
運動。
10:50.525–10:50.994
>> All right.
好的。
10:51.004–10:54.804
In a state dominated by the the Michigan Wolverines,
在密歇根狼獾隊主導的州,
10:54.814–10:59.399
Michigan State football, the Detroit Lions, uh I don't think that's
密歇根州立大學的美式足球、底特律雄獅隊,呃,我認為這
10:59.409–11:00.906
going to go over very well.
不會太受歡迎。
11:00.916–11:05.874
But, according to CNN, Elsayed even compared football to slavery,
但根據 CNN 的報導,艾薩耶德甚至將美式足球與奴隸制相比,
11:05.884–11:09.698
uh openly questioned if the sport could be, quote,
呃,公開質疑這項運動是否可以,引號,
11:09.708–11:10.680
ethical.
合乎道德。
11:10.690–11:14.408
Apparently, Elsayed also had ethical concerns about cash bail and
顯然,Elsayed 也對現金保釋和
11:14.418–11:14.859
prisons.
監獄也有道德上的擔憂。
11:14.869–11:16.905
Take a look at this.
來看看這個。
11:16.915–11:20.532
>> We've got We've got uh uh uh policies like money bail,
>> 我們有,我們有,呃,呃,呃,像現金保釋這樣的政策,
11:20.542–11:23.673
uh which basically force people into jail cuz they're poor.
嗯,這基本上會迫使窮人入獄。
11:23.683–11:26.050
Um and beyond that, right?
嗯,除此之外,對吧?
11:26.060–11:30.410
The the the broader question of um how many people are left languishing
更廣泛的問題是,有多少人正淒慘地
11:30.420–11:34.259
in uh prison facilities who don't need to be there.
滯留在呃監獄設施中,其實他們不需要在那裡。
11:34.269–11:38.432
Any and all efforts to uh get people out of jails and prisons and
任何和所有的努力,呃,讓人離開監獄和監獄,並
11:38.442–11:41.619
to keep people out of jails and prisons um is policy that we need
讓人遠離監獄和監獄,呃,是我們現在需要
11:41.629–11:44.060
to be investing in particularly right now.
現在正是我們需要投資的重點
11:44.070–11:46.087
Uh but this doesn't end when the pandemic's over,
呃,但這不會在疫情結束後就結束,
11:46.097–11:46.330
right?
對吧?
11:46.340–11:50.016
We we shouldn't have to have uh a global pandemic to force us to
我們不應該需要一場全球大流行病來迫使我們
11:50.026–11:51.147
to find our humanity.
找回我們的人性。
11:51.157–11:53.283
Uh this should just be what we do because it's the right thing
這應該只是我們應該做的事,因為這是對的事
11:53.293–11:55.153
to do.
該做的事。
11:55.163–11:59.056
>> So, El Sayed has a lot of deeply deeply profound ethical concerns
>> 所以,艾勒·賽義德對現金保釋、足球、煙火等議題有著非常深刻且深遠的道德擔憂
11:59.066–12:04.016
about cash bail, football, fireworks, but he has no problem at
但他對他的朋友、夥伴、摯友阿薩姆·派克卻毫無問題。
12:04.026–12:07.810
all with his buddy, his pal, his BFF, Assaam Pyke.
你記得那個呼籲街道被
12:07.820–12:11.644
You remember the guy that called for the streets to run red with
你記得那個呼籲讓街道染紅的人嗎
12:11.654–12:13.952
the blood of landlords.
那個當然讚揚9/11、
12:13.962–12:17.086
The guy that, you know, of course, praised 9/11,
將9/11歸咎於美國、讚揚哈瑪斯、抨擊非裔美國人、
12:17.096–12:21.673
uh blamed America for 9/11, praised Hamas, trashed uh African-Americans,
打扮成毛澤東模樣的傢伙,是他的朋友。
12:21.683–12:25.644
uh the guy that dresses up like Chairman Mao, his friend.
在給CNN的聲明中,艾勒·賽義德的競選團隊試圖將
12:25.654–12:29.729
In a statement to CNN, the El Sayed campaign is trying to distance
其候選人與幾乎所有這些過去的立場劃清界限,
12:29.739–12:33.982
their candidate from nearly all of these past uh positions,
但請記住,這些是艾勒·賽義德近期的評論,
12:33.992–12:37.950
but keep in mind these are recent comments from El Sayed,
有些甚至是在過去兩年內發表的。
12:37.960–12:39.755
some within the last 2 years.
現在,更早之前,2009年,當時還是醫學生的
12:39.765–12:43.062
Now, much earlier, a 2009 uh as a medical student,
阿卜杜勒·艾勒·賽義德接受《紐約時報》採訪,撰寫一篇關於
12:43.072–12:47.070
Abdul El Sayed was interviewed by The New York Times for an article
伊斯蘭銀行的文章,該文章由《華盛頓自由旗幟報》挖掘出來。
12:47.080–12:51.284
about Islamic banking unearthed by The Washington Free Beacon.
傳統上,在伊斯蘭教中,貸款利息是被禁止的,
12:51.294–12:55.459
Traditionally, in Islam, interest on loans is prohibited,
在伊斯蘭教傳統中,貸款利息是被禁止的,
12:55.469–12:58.710
creating the need for alternatives to mortgages.
從而產生了對房屋貸款替代方案的需求。
12:58.720–13:01.610
But, El Sayed took it a step further, telling the Times,
但艾賽德進一步採取行動,告訴《紐約時報》
13:01.620–13:06.161
quote, "Ultimately, the question is, when I die and stand before
引述:「最終的問題是,當我去世並站在
13:06.171–13:09.746
God and go through everything I did in my life,
上帝面前,回顧我一生中做過的一切,
13:09.756–13:15.103
I don't want to say I did it the easy way instead of the Sharia
我不想說我選擇了容易的方式,而不是符合伊斯蘭教法
13:15.113–13:16.674
compliant way.
的方式。
13:16.684–13:19.775
Not because of fear, but because of obligation."
不是因為恐懼,而是因為義務。」
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Again, this was about an article about Islamic mortgage alternatives.
再次強調,這是一篇關於伊斯蘭房屋貸款替代方案的報導。
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Anyway, in a statement the El Sayed campaign said,
總之,艾賽德競選團隊在一份聲明中表示,
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quote, "Abdul believes in the separation of church and state while
引述:「阿卜杜勒相信政教分離,同時
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he personally strives to live by the rules of his faith,
他個人努力遵循其信仰的規則,
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as many Americans do.
就像許多美國人一樣。
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Abdul opposes any effort by any religious community to write faith
阿卜杜勒反對任何宗教團體試圖將信仰
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laws into the laws of our country."
法典化為我國法律的任何努力。」
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What does he stand on Sharia?
他到底在伊斯蘭教法上持什麼立場?
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I'd like the answer to that.
我很想知道這個問題的答案。
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So, what will Michigan voters think about all this?
那麼,密歇根州的選民會對這些事情怎麼看呢?
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this?
這些事情?
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>> So, here's some really fun tape.
>> 所以,這裡有一段非常有趣的影片。
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Roll Roll it, Sven.
滾動吧,斯文。
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>> [applause] >> [applause] >> So, there's a happy bunch.
[掌聲] [掌聲] 看來大家很高興。
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You'd almost almost think they discovered a new cleaning product.
你幾乎會以為他們發現了新的清潔產品。
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product.
產品。
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product.
產品。
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>> [laughter] >> Thanks, Jim.
[笑聲] 謝謝,吉姆。
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Jim.
吉姆。
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So, what was that lady signing?
那麼,那位女士在打什麼手語?
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A new law that puts child predators behind bars?
是將兒童掠奪者關進監獄的新法律嗎?
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A new bill that castrates kidnappers?
是將綁架者閹割的新法案嗎?
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Legislation that makes lethal injection mandatory for anyone who
讓任何沒戴耳機聽布萊恩·基爾梅德有聲書的人強制執行注射死刑的法案
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listens to a Brian Kilmeade audio book without headphones?
未戴耳機聆聽布萊恩·基爾梅德的有聲書就必須強制注射死刑的立法嗎?
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Nope.
不是。
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They're ecstatic that Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey signed
他們欣喜若狂,因為麻薩諸塞州州長莫拉·希利簽署了
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a bill that allows you to abort a healthy viable baby right up
一項法案,允許你找到願意執行的醫生,
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to birth if you can find a doctor willing to do it.
直到出生前都可以墮胎一個健康且可存活的嬰兒。
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it.
嬰兒。
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And given that this is Massachusetts, the same state that protects
鑑於這是麻薩諸塞州,同樣是保護
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affirmation, that search won't be hard.
肯定論的州,這項搜索不會很難。
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affirmation, that search won't be hard.
肯定論,這項搜索不會很難。
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Now, I didn't believe this law was real.
現在,我不相信這項法律是真的。
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Abort up to birth?
產前中止妊娠直到出生?
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Why not wait till they're in kindergarten and get them while they're
為什麼不等到他們上幼兒園,趁他們午睡時帶走他們?
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napping?
午睡時?
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What's next?
接下來會是什麼?
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Abortion if a fifth grader brings home a bad report card?
如果五年級學生帶回一張成績不好的報告單,就要進行墮胎嗎?
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Surely this can't be right, right?
這肯定不對吧,對吧?
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Nope.
不對。
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and found out, yeah, this is real.
並且發現,是的,這是真的。
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and found out, yeah, this is real.
並且發現,是的,這是真的。
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The old law banned most abortions after 24 weeks,
舊法禁止在懷孕24週後進行大多數墮胎,
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with exceptions for the mother's life or severe fetal problems.
除非是為了母親的生命或嚴重的胎兒問題。
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The new one replaces all that with one gloriously vague standard,
新法用一個極度模糊的標準取代了所有這些規定,
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professional judgment.
專業判斷
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It's like the same standard used by our nation's plastic surgeons.
這就像我們國家整形外科醫生所使用的標準一樣。
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No gestational cutoff, no required medical justification.
沒有孕週限制,也不需要醫療理由。
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Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater,
談談把嬰兒和洗澡水一起倒掉,
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which these people is the goal.
這些人的目標正是如此。
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We've gone from rare but legal to if you don't like your baby,
我們從罕見但合法的狀況,變成了如果你不喜歡你的孩子,
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you can kill your baby.
你就可以殺死你的孩子。
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Supporters swear this is only about rare tragic cases,
支持者堅稱這僅涉及罕見的悲慘案例,
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yet the law doesn't actually require the case to be rare or tragic.
然而,法律實際上並不要求案例必須是罕見或悲劇性的。
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They also say women no longer have to flee the state to kill a
他們還表示,女性不再需要逃離州境去墮胎
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healthy baby.
健康的嬰兒。
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Makes sense with gas prices being what they are,
考慮到目前的汽油價格,
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it could get pretty expensive.
這可能會變得相當昂貴。
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expensive.
昂貴。
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But critics point out the obvious.
但批評者指出了顯而易見的事實。
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The law itself contains zero guardrails against elective abortions
該法律本身對健康嬰兒的自願性墮胎沒有任何防護措施
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on healthy babies.
。
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The bill deliberately traded limited exceptions for an open-ended
該法案刻意以有限的例外情況換取了無限制的
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doctor knows best free-for-all.
「醫生最懂」的混亂局面。
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It's like replacing a locked door with a please don't rob us sign,
這就像是用一個「請勿搶劫」的標誌取代了鎖上的門,
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then acting shocked when your place is emptier than Jasmine Crockett's
然後當你的家比 Jasmine Crockett 的腦袋還空蕩時,
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head.
表現出驚訝的樣子。
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Meanwhile, the lefty media will deny that healthy babies with healthy
與此同時,自由派媒體會否認健康媽媽懷著健康嬰兒被謀殺的事實,
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moms are being murdered, of course until they say it's a good thing.
當然,直到他們說這是一件好事為止。
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But a woman can decide the day before her due date that she's changed
但一名女性可以在預產期前一天決定改變主意,
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her mind, and who knows why?
而誰知道為什麼呢?
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All she needs is a doctor who sees abortion as not just routine,
她只需要一位將墮胎視為不僅是常規程序、
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but a sacrament.
更是聖禮的醫生。
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A lunatic who believes the magic of being a woman isn't that you
一個瘋子相信,身為女性的魔力不在於你能孕育生命,而在於你能消滅它。
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can bear a child, it's that you can eliminate one.
能孕育孩子,那就是可以消除一個。
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That's not healthcare, that's infanticide.
那不是醫療,那是殺嬰
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Look, a healthy baby in the final weeks can feel pain,
看,在最後幾週,一個健康的嬰兒能感受到疼痛,
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react to the world, and survive outside the womb with medical care.
對世界做出反應,並在醫療照護下於子宮外存活。
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care.
照護。
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We call killing a newborn murder.
我們稱殺害新生兒為謀殺。
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Doing it 5 minutes earlier inside the womb only means the crime
在子宮內早五分鐘做這件事,只意味著犯罪現場
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scene has better lighting and a nicer waiting room.
有更好的照明和更舒適的等候室。
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Because it's a child, outsourcing your guilt to a doctor doesn't
因為那是個孩子,將你的罪疚感外包給醫生並不會
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change that.
改變這一點。
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When the law shrugs and says we need to keep the requirements open-ended
當法律聳聳肩說,我們需要將要求保持開放式,
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cuz we just don't know what the reason could be to abort,
因為我們根本不知道墮胎的理由可能是什麼,
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you see where this flexibility leads.
你就會看到這種靈活性會導向何處。
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It's just another step toward the ultimate amoral bottom.
這只是邁向最終無道德底線的又一步。
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We might already be there.
我們可能已經在那裡了。
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The applauding women, they're like mullahs celebrating public executions.
那些鼓掌的女性,就像慶祝公開處決的毛拉。
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The party line always comes ahead of the individual.
黨派立場總是凌駕於個人之上。
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individual.
個人。
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And so a class of humans becomes disposable in a moral free fall.
因此,一類人類在道德自由落體中變得可有可無。
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Cuz if you can't see the baby baby, you can murder it.
因為如果你看不到那個寶寶,你就可以殺死它。
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Oh, they'll pull out all the stops to defend a death row killer
哦,他們會使出渾身解數來為死囚犯辯護
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or a drunk illegal who runs over a teen, but an inconvenient child,
或是為撞死青少年的醉酒非法移民辯護,但對於一個不方便的孩童,
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that kid's doomed before his first day on Earth.
那個孩子在來到地球的第一天之前就已經註定 doomed。
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>> LOOK WHO WE GOT.
>> 看看我們請到了誰。
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TONIGHT'S GUEST.
今晚的來賓。
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>> [applause]
>> [掌聲]
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>> [applause]
>> [掌聲]
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>> HE USUALLY TRAVELS WITH six background
>> 他通常帶著六名背景
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background dancers.
背景舞者一起演出。
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Also making money off Fox Business, CHARLES PAYNE.
同時也在福克斯商業頻道賺錢的查爾斯·佩恩。
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SHE'S A FINANCIAL CORRESPONDENT.
她是一位財經記者。
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Proof that one woman [music] could do math.
證明一位女性 [音樂] 也能做數學。
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New York Post COLUMNIST LYDIA MOYNIHAN.
紐約郵報專欄作家莉迪婭·莫伊尼漢。
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>> [cheering]
>> [歡呼聲]
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>> [cheering]
>> [歡呼聲]
18:28.519–18:28.996
>> [cheering]
>> [歡呼聲]
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[applause]
[掌聲]
18:29.473–18:29.950
[applause]
[掌聲]
18:29.960–18:32.530
>> WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BOOK HIM anymore anymore because they're
>> 我們將無法再邀請他了,因為他們正在
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building a school 200 yards away.
在距離200碼的地方蓋學校。
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Co-hosts of the Anthony and Jim Joe podcast, JIM NORTON.
《Anthony and Jim Joe》播客的共同主持人,吉姆·諾頓。
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>> [cheering]
>> [歡呼聲]
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>> [cheering]
>> [歡呼聲]
18:39.246–18:39.481
>> [cheering]
>> [歡呼聲]
18:39.481–18:39.715
[applause]
[掌聲]
18:39.715–18:39.950
[applause]
[掌聲]
18:39.960–18:43.085
>> AND SHE WENT FROM MICKEY MOUSE to the the White House.
>> 她從米奇老鼠變成了白宮官員。
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Former Disney star and Trump White House official,
前迪士尼明星暨特朗普白宮官員,
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Caroline Sunshine.
卡洛琳·桑尼。
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Sunshine.
桑尼。
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Sunshine.
桑尼。
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>> [applause and cheering]
>> [掌聲與歡呼聲]
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>> Charles, I didn't believe this.
>> 查爾斯,我不相信這事。
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Do you you have to I had to do my own research,
你真的得做你自己的研究,
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which you know, Charles, I'm against.
你知道的,查爾斯,我反對這樣做。
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>> Yeah.
>> 是啊。
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>> Yeah.
>> 是啊。
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>> And I had to I didn't believe this.
>> 我真的不敢相信這事。
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Is Is this like mind-boggling?
這是不是令人難以置信?
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>> It's uh it's beyond mind-boggling.
這簡直是超乎想像的難以置信。
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I got got goosebumps as you were doing that read.
當你朗讀那段文字時,我起了一身雞皮疙瘩。
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It's it's uh you know, so tough.
這真的非常艱難。
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Listen, I believe life begins in conception, right?
聽我說,我相信生命從受孕那一刻開始,對吧?
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And and we had in this country the sort of compromise that okay,
而我們這個國家曾經有一種妥協,就是說,
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it's a woman's right but you have a limit on this thing,
這是女性的權利,但對此有所限制,
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right?
對吧?
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And uh you know, it's an unsettling compromise maybe for everyone,
這種妥協可能對每個人來說都令人不安,
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but this is murder.
但這就是謀殺。
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Bottom line, this is out and out murder.
總之,這就是赤裸裸的謀殺。
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And to celebrate it, I could I guess that could watch them they
為了慶祝它,我想他們可能會坐在那裡看影片,
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probably they probably sit around and watch videos of baby seals
他們可能坐在那裡看小海豹被棍棒擊打的影片並為之歡呼,因為這整件事令人如此沮喪。
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getting clubbed and cheer that because that's how disheartening
被敲擊致死還為此歡呼,因為這就是整件事令人絕望的地方
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this whole thing is.
查爾斯,這感覺就像,
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[snorts]
這幾乎成了一種宗教,因為他們必須展現公開的喜悅。
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>> It does feel like, Charles, that it's it's almost a
這就像我們必須達成共識,所以如果一位女性聽到這件事並覺得這不對,
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religion in the sense that they have to show that public glee.
這在某種意義上就像一種宗教,他們必須展現出公開的喜悅。
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It's like we have to be in agreement and so that if a woman hears
你看,那裡有二十位女性,她們都是政治家,認為
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about this and feels that it's wrong, it's your problem because
聽到這件事覺得不對,那是你的問題,因為
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look, there's 20 women there and they're all politicians who think
看,那裡有二十位女性,她們都是認為
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this is great.
這太棒了。
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>> Yeah, well, well, uh I think I think women probably are going
>> 是啊,嗯,嗯,呃,我認為我認為女性大概會
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to most women aren't going to let that impact them.
大多數女性不會讓這影響她們。
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That's probably to assuage their own guilt, you know,
這大概是為了安撫她們自己的內疚,你知道,
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the the fact of the matter is all those women there cannot feel
事實是,那裡的所有女性都無法感到
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good about it.
對這事感到自在。
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If you look into their eyes and into their souls,
如果你注視她們的眼睛和靈魂,
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they cannot feel good about this,
她們無法對這事感到自在,
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but they're long for the charade
但她們渴望這場假象
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and that's all this is is a charade,
而這一切只是一場假象,
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but it's a deadly charade.
但這是致命的假象。
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>> Mm.
>> 嗯。
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Lady, do you have any good abortion abortion abortion jokes?
女士,你有什麼好的墮胎墮胎墮胎笑話嗎?
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jokes?
笑話?
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jokes?
笑話?
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>> [laughter]
>> [笑聲]
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>> I was counting on you to do that,
>> 我指望你來做那個,
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Greg.
格雷格。
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Greg.
格雷格。
20:27.606–20:29.266
I feel like that was a missed opportunity.
我覺得那是一個錯失的機會。
20:29.276–20:29.356
opportunity.
機會。
20:29.356–20:29.514
>> one.
>> 一。
20:29.524–20:30.497
Knock knock.
噹噹。
20:30.507–20:30.587
knock.
敲。
20:30.587–20:31.173
>> Who's there?
>> 誰在那裡?
20:31.183–20:31.263
there?
那裡?
20:31.263–20:37.100
>> You'll never know.
>> 你永遠不會知道。
20:37.110–20:38.504
>> Yeah, it's it's what.
>> 是啊,它是什麼。
20:38.504–20:42.286
At what point is abortion indistinguishable
墮胎在什麼時候會與殺嬰行為無法區分
20:42.296–20:43.839
from infanticide?
與殺嬰無法區分?
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They keep moving it and moving it.
他們不斷地移動它,再移動它。
20:46.609–20:47.239
>> And to think,
>> 而且想想看,
20:47.239–20:49.317
I mean, there's babies that are born weeks
我的意思是,有些嬰兒在幾週
20:49.327–20:52.373
or months earlier that make it in the ICU,
或幾個月前出生,在加護病房存活下來,
20:52.373–20:53.573
and the parents,
而父母們
20:53.583–20:54.884
because they love their child,
因為他們愛自己的孩子,
20:54.884–20:56.341
will do everything they possibly
會竭盡所能
20:56.351–20:59.098
can to keep that baby on life support,
讓那個嬰兒維持生命支持,
20:59.098–21:00.746
but I guess if you just
但我猜如果你只是
21:00.756–21:03.980
are unlucky enough to have a parent who decides,
不幸到有個決定不再「感覺」的 parent,
21:03.990–21:05.139
"Not feeling anymore,"
「不再有任何感覺了。」
21:05.139–21:07.302
you're going to be literally discarded.
你將被 literally 丟棄。
21:07.312–21:10.960
and I mean this is grim stuff.
我說這可是嚴峻的事實。
21:10.970–21:14.480
I also think this kind of speaks to a larger issue on the left
我也認為這反映了左派面臨的一個更大問題
21:14.490–21:17.089
of the sort of authoritarian streak that we're seeing
那就是我們所看到的某種獨裁傾向
21:17.089–21:17.503
that it's
那就是
21:17.513–21:20.324
not enough to be tolerant of what they want to do.
僅僅對他們想做的事保持容忍是不夠的。
21:20.334–21:21.895
You have to celebrate it.
你必須為它喝彩。
21:21.905–21:22.902
You have to applaud.
你必須鼓掌。
21:22.912–21:25.449
You have to give it a standing ovation
你必須給予起立鼓掌
21:25.449–21:27.413
and I'm old enough to remember
我年紀夠大,還記得
21:27.423–21:30.595
when those coexist bumper stickers were really popular growing
當那些共存貼紙在俄勒岡州波特蘭外非常流行時
21:30.605–21:32.488
up outside Portland, Oregon.
「共存」貼紙非常流行。
21:32.498–21:32.578
Oregon.
俄勒岡州。
21:32.578–21:34.264
Now the left doesn't care about coexisting.
現在左派不在乎共存。
21:34.274–21:38.497
They want to force whatever their agenda is on everybody else
他們想將他們的議程強加給其他人
21:38.497–21:38.745
and
並且
21:38.755–21:41.148
this line about oh we just want a woman and her doctor to make
關於「我們只希望婦女和她的醫生來做出
21:41.158–21:42.030
this decision.
這個決定」的說法。
21:42.040–21:45.114
No, you also want taxpayers to pay for it, right?
不,你也希望納稅人為它買單,對吧?
21:45.124–21:46.834
You want all of us to be part of it
你們希望我們所有人都參與其中
21:46.834–21:48.478
and you want to teach children
並且你們希望教導公立學校的孩子們
21:48.488–21:50.080
in public schools that this is a good thing.
在公立學校教導學生這是件好事
21:50.090–21:53.613
So this isn't even just something that they want for themselves.
所以這甚至不只是他們自己想要的事情。
21:53.623–21:55.259
They want everyone else to be complicit.
他們希望其他所有人都成為共犯。
21:55.269–21:55.389
>> Yeah
>> 沒錯
21:55.389–21:56.652
and you know what the thing is is they're going to say
而且你知道問題在於他們會說
21:56.662–21:58.078
well you could trust a doctor
你可以信任醫生
21:58.078–21:59.906
but the reason why I included plastic
但我之所以納入整形外科醫師
21:59.916–22:02.893
surgeons is because all those guys are MDs
是因為那些傢伙都是醫學博士(MD)
22:02.893–22:04.509
but if you pay somebody
但如果你付錢給某人
22:04.519–22:06.323
enough they will ruin your face.
足夠多的話,他們會毀了你的臉。
22:06.333–22:06.413
face.
臉。
22:06.413–22:09.607
>> I mean think about all of the TikTok videos that went so
>> 我是說,想想那些在 TikTok 上
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viral of health care professionals saying they would try and murder
瘋傳的影片,醫療從業人員說他們會試圖謀殺
22:13.512–22:15.228
an ICE officer, right?
一名 ICE(美國移民與海關執法局)官員,對吧?
22:15.238–22:16.753
Celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder.
慶祝查理·柯克被謀殺。
22:16.763–22:20.172
There's some, there's some bad people out there in the industry.
業界裡確實存在一些心術不正的人
22:20.182–22:21.059
>> Yeah.
>> 沒錯。
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So Carolyn Sunshine, what a bright, bright name for this topic.
所以卡洛琳·陽光(Carolyn Sunshine),這個主題的名字起得真明亮。
22:24.732–22:26.101
Uh, how do you get?
呃,你是怎麼做到的?
22:26.101–22:29.471
I was trying to think of an analogy for a
我一直在想一個類比,
22:29.481–22:30.742
liberal to understand this.
讓自由派人士能理解這一點。
22:30.752–22:35.851
This would be like, uh, gun advocates, uh, that they don't just pass
這就像是,呃,槍枝倡導者,呃,他們不僅僅是通過
22:35.861–22:38.056
an open carry.
開放攜帶。
22:38.066–22:38.146
carry.
攜帶。
22:38.146–22:43.026
Uh, you can actually carry a loaded machine gun anywhere you want,
呃,你實際上可以在任何你想要的地方攜帶裝填的子彈機槍,
22:43.036–22:46.197
into bars, schools and police stations.
包括酒吧、學校和警察局。
22:46.207–22:49.666
Uh, we would no, make it a grenade launcher.
呃,我們會不,改成榴彈發射器。
22:49.676–22:52.916
That's kind of what it, it's like there's absolutely no limitations
這大概就是那種完全沒有任何限制的意思
22:52.926–22:54.659
whatsoever on what you can do.
你可以做任何事。
22:54.669–22:54.976
>> Yeah.
>> 是的。
22:54.986–22:57.337
No, I was told this was a comedy, comedy, comedy show.
不,我被告知這是一個喜劇,喜劇,喜劇節目。
22:57.347–22:57.427
show.
節目。
22:57.427–22:57.507
show.
節目。
22:57.507–22:59.122
>> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And the last time I was here, we
>> [笑聲] >> [笑聲] >> 上次我來這裡時,我們
22:59.132–23:01.347
talked, talked about rape allegations, and now we're talking about
談論,談論了強姦指控,現在我們談論的是
23:01.357–23:03.126
killing children, and I don't know.
殺害兒童,我不知道。
23:03.126–23:03.847
No, I'm kidding.
不,我在開玩笑。
23:03.857–23:05.697
Um, um, but, you know what's interesting?
呃,呃,但是,你知道什麼有趣嗎?
23:05.707–23:08.980
I saw that clip, and in it she goes, you know,
我看到那段影片,裡面她說,你知道,
23:08.990–23:12.345
you have to think about all the people that will never meet and
你得想想那些永遠不會見面的人,以及
23:12.355–23:14.494
that will never know that this law will affect.
也永遠不會知道這項法律會影響到的人。
23:14.504–23:18.183
And I'm thinking, yeah, you could start with the unborn children,
我在想,是啊,你可以從未出生的孩子開始,
23:18.193–23:21.385
although I don't think that's who she was talking about.
雖然我不認為她是那個意思。
23:21.395–23:24.769
You know, we talk a lot about women with this issue.
你知道,我們經常在討論女性與這個問題。
23:24.779–23:29.100
It is interesting, 'cause if a guy, right, were to abandon his kid,
這很有趣,因為如果一個男人,對吧,拋棄他的孩子,
23:29.110–23:30.541
he's, he's a deadbeat dad.
他就是個不负責任的爸爸。
23:30.551–23:30.972
>> Mhm.
>> 嗯嗯。
23:30.982–23:31.062
>> Mhm.
>> 嗯嗯。
23:31.062–23:34.179
>> But if a woman abandons her kid, it's, it's, it's pro-choice.
>> 但如果一個女人拋棄她的孩子,那就是,那就是,那就是支持選擇權。
23:34.189–23:35.030
>> Mhm.
>> 嗯嗯。
23:35.040–23:35.120
>> Mhm.
>> 嗯嗯。
23:35.120–23:38.636
>> And it's just interesting because, because you know,
這很有趣,因為你知道
23:38.646–23:40.938
it takes two people to make a baby.
孕育一個寶寶需要兩個人。
23:40.948–23:41.028
baby.
寶寶。
23:41.028–23:41.108
baby.
寶寶。
23:41.108–23:41.448
>> Mhm.
>> 嗯嗯。
23:41.458–23:41.538
>> Mhm.
>> 嗯嗯。
23:41.538–23:42.766
>> One of them's a man.
>> 其中一個是男人。
23:42.776–23:44.255
Um, I could say that on this network.
嗯,我可以說在這個網路平台上。
23:44.265–23:47.528
I don't think I could say that on other networks, um, um, 'cause everybody's
我認為在其他網路平台上,嗯,嗯,我可能無法這樣說,因為每個人都是
23:47.538–23:48.538
sane.
理智的。
23:48.548–23:51.136
Um, but it takes two people to make a baby.
嗯,但孕育一個寶寶需要兩個人。
23:51.146–23:51.226
baby.
寶寶。
23:51.226–23:55.165
The second the child's born, the man has custodial rights that
在孩子出生的那一刻,父親就擁有必須履行的監護權,
23:55.175–23:58.712
he has to fulfill, but there's a 9-month period where he doesn't
但在那九個月的期間裡,他沒有任何發言權。
23:58.722–23:59.667
get any say.
沒有發言權。
23:59.677–24:00.095
>> Yeah.
>> 是的。
24:00.105–24:00.185
>> Yeah.
>> 是的。
24:00.185–24:02.453
>> And I just think it's such a human, I, I mean,
>> 我認為這是非常人性化的,我的意思是,
24:02.463–24:05.137
again, this is a comedy show, but, but I've had people in my life
再說一次,這是一檔喜劇節目,但是,但是在我生命中,
24:05.147–24:09.031
that I love who have been affected by this, who have made that
有我所愛的人受到這方面的影響,他們做出了這樣的
24:09.041–24:09.754
decision.
決定。
24:09.764–24:12.042
And I'll tell you, I don't think it's something to be glamorized
我告訴你們,我認為這不是一件應該被美化
24:12.052–24:13.166
or taken lightly.
或輕率看待的事情。
24:13.176–24:16.337
I have seen the mental health impact that it has on people,
我見過它對人們心理健康造成的影響,
24:16.347–24:19.508
that it's a decision that stays with people for a lifetime,
這是一個會伴隨人們一生的決定,
24:19.518–24:20.550
and it causes a lot of pain,
它帶來了許多痛苦,
24:20.550–24:21.877
and I don't think there's anything
我認為沒有任何
24:21.887–24:25.329
empowering or to be glamorized about it.
賦予力量,或是將它美化。
24:25.339–24:26.645
That's just. >> Why don't they?
那只是。>> 為什麼他們不這麼做?
24:26.645–24:28.735
I don't understand how, how, they wouldn't
我不明白,他們怎麼會
24:28.745–24:31.328
mention the exceptions in the law?
不提法律中的例外情況?
24:31.338–24:32.989
They just said, you know what?
他們只是說,你知道嗎?
24:32.999–24:35.062
You know, you know, it, they'll be rare exceptions.
你知道,你知道,它們會是罕見的例外。
24:35.072–24:35.779
Well, like what?
像是什麼樣的例外?
24:35.789–24:38.887
And they won't say because they want to leave that open.
他們不說,因為他們想保留這種彈性。
24:38.897–24:40.202
It's so bizarre.
這太奇怪了。
24:40.212–24:42.074
>> Yeah, well, that's also, that's part of, of it.
>> 是啊,這也是其中一部分。
24:42.084–24:44.901
They're not seeing it the way that that you and I are seeing it.
他們看待事情的方式,和你我看待的方式不同。
24:44.911–24:46.529
>> TIM, HOW YOU DOING?
>> 蒂姆,你最近好嗎?
24:46.539–24:46.619
DOING?
好嗎?
24:46.619–24:47.757
>> GREG, never better.
>> 葛雷格,從未更好。
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better.
更好。
24:47.847–24:49.518
>> I KNOW.
>> 我知道。
24:49.528–24:49.608
KNOW.
知道。
24:49.608–24:50.961
I HEAR YOU GOT A NEW SHOW.
我聽說你有了新節目。
24:50.971–24:51.790
>> I do, yes.
>> 是的,我有。
24:51.800–24:54.820
Uh, my friend Anthony and I, I are hosting a comedy podcast where
嗯,我的朋友安東尼和我,我們正在主持一個喜劇播客,其中
24:54.830–24:56.643
we offer 10-MONTH ABORTIONS.
我們提供10個月的墮胎服務。
24:56.653–25:00.768
>> [laughter] >> UH NO, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY.
>> [笑聲] >> 呃,不,你知道,這很有趣。
25:00.778–25:03.412
WE JUST JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW the country got so radical.
我們只是……我不知道這個國家怎麼變得這麼激進。
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radical.
激進。
25:03.502–25:03.582
radical.
激進。
25:03.582–25:03.662
>> Yeah.
>> 是啊。
25:03.662–25:03.742
>> Yeah.
>> 是啊。
25:03.742–25:06.527
Like we we love radical thinking and and then we complain like
就像我們我們熱愛激進思維,然後又抱怨說
25:06.537–25:08.164
we can't comprehend the radical thinking.
我們無法理解這種激進思維。
25:08.174–25:10.210
Like this is insane.
就像這太瘋狂了。
25:10.220–25:10.600
>> Yeah.
>> 是啊。
25:10.610–25:10.690
>> Yeah.
>> 是啊。
25:10.690–25:13.570
And and there are also people who who believe that an 11-year-old
而且還有些人認為,被強暴的11歲女孩應該被迫生下孩子。
25:13.580–25:16.000
who's been raped should be forced to carry a baby.
就像我們……我們允許這些人
25:16.010–25:20.650
Like there's no We allow these people to to to kind of run the
主導局勢,然後我們全都坐下來抱怨,說,
25:20.660–25:22.610
show and then we all just sit back and complain and go,
秀場然後我們就只是坐著抱怨說
25:22.620–25:24.114
"How did it all get so crazy?"
事情怎麼會變得這麼瘋狂
25:24.124–25:24.290
>> Mhm.
>> 嗯哼。
25:24.300–25:24.380
>> Mhm.
就像我的意思是,我曾在許多婦女權利集會上發表演說。
25:24.380–25:27.259
Like I mean I've spoken at a lot of of women's rights rallies.
我是說我參加過很多婦女權利集會並發表演說
25:27.269–25:29.242
Um they they think I'm a lesbian.
嗯,他們覺得我是女同性戀。
25:29.252–25:32.053
And I you know,
你知道,
25:32.063–25:34.596
this might not be be popular, but I think abortion should be up
這可能不太受歡迎,但我認為墮胎應該由
25:34.606–25:35.960
to the guy.
男方決定。
25:35.970–25:39.368
you you deal with it.
你得自己處理。
25:39.378–25:40.538
you you deal with it.
你得自己處理。
25:40.548–25:42.409
If not, what the hell now?
如果不行的話,那現在怎麼辦?
25:42.419–25:47.283
>> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> THAT'S MY OPINION.
>> [笑聲] >> [笑聲] >> 那是我的觀點。
25:47.293–25:48.159
HOLD ON.
等一下。
25:48.169–25:48.889
SIR, I'M [laughter] KIDDING.
先生,我[笑聲]在開玩笑。
25:48.899–25:53.554
YOU CAN WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU SAW THE GODFATHER?
你看到《教父》時做了什麼?
25:53.564–25:55.709
I CAN'T BELIEVE AL PACINO'S IN THE MAFIA.
我不敢相信阿爾·帕西諾在黑幫電影裡。
25:55.719–26:00.642
>> [laughter] >> OH [laughter] MY GOD.
>> [笑聲] >> 哦[笑聲]我的天啊。
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GOD.
天啊。
26:00.732–26:02.038
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> 好吧。
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RIGHT.
沒錯。
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