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shift\n就是范式转移\n那我们看到最新的一个统计\n它做2026年的\n全球年金的资产研究\n这是WTW最近的一个发表的报告\n它这个报告其实一直持续都每年都有\n它持续追踪全球22个国家\nTop22的国家叫做P22\n它的资产的规模现在大概\n你管理年金的规模大概是68.3兆美元\n我另外也找了一些其他的报告\n像OECD\nOECD它有一份报告是2025年的Pension Market in Focus\n因为他们也是持续追踪\n所以我就会看这些报告\n还有哪些新的讯息出来\n那OECD的报告\n它指出全球退休金的资产\n在经历了2022年\n有些疫情之后的剧烈的修正之后\n现在它也都膨胀\n因为股市都在涨\n但是它的主要的关键不是说它变大\n而是它现在大家都比较烦恼\n说我要怎么配\n所以我们看到这些报告有提出\n过去几十年\n全球的年金采取的就是传统的\n这个资产配置的模型\nSAA\nStrategic Asset Allocation\n那就是把资产呢\n它切割成像股啊\n债啊\n还有海外资产等不同的类别\n那日本的GPIF\n就是一个典型的代表\n那它\n你可以看到它也\n你可以说它很僵化\n也可以说它很纪律性\n那它常年就是维持了\n国内的股票25%\n海外的股票25%\n日本的国内的债券25%\n海外的债券25%\n这个是四分法\n所以你可以看他也很自视的一直维持这样\n那这个平衡呢\n其实现在要改变\n那我们看到在高利率\n还有地缘政治常态化的今天\n全球大型的年金\n他正在在做一些调整\n我们刚刚前面提到他\n传统上面P22这几个国家\n他的年金是采取的是SAA\n就是战略资产配置的方式\n但现在他开始调整\n调整成叫做Total Portfolio Approach\n当然这是一些名词\n就是整体组合法\n但讲白了就是说\n把这个传统的这个模式\n要做一些改变\n而且这样的改变\n更明显的展现出\n很强的本土偏好\n就是更多的资金\n更多的资源\n它要挪回到它的本土\n因为大家都\n更多的强调安全性\n然后建制本身\n效率已经不是最重要\n所以就做了这一条\n所以资金的安排\n甚至老百姓的年金退收金\n都被这样子的\n等于说这样子操弄吧\n这样子的挪移\n那另外呢\n我们再看这些数据的\n第二个部分呢\n我来看一下\n日本我觉得他就是一个替代干\n他现在有300兆日元\n他现在引导要回来\n我们来看为什么日本财务大臣和劳动省大臣\n他会在近期连续的\n他们上台是很有默契的\n放出说检讨GPIF的资产配置\n而且是鼓励增加本土资产\n我们来看一组数据\n日本的财务省\n他表达希望GPIF增持国内的资产之后\n市场也迅速的做出反应\n这里面包含日元对美元短线\n从162.38就升到161.57\n那另外日本的国债的殖利率也下降\n十年期的日本的JGB它也下降\n下降11个basis point到2.77\n那40年期日本有40年期长端的国债的殖利率\n更大幅的下降到3.95%\n日经指数225指数它上涨了1.4\n虽然这些是短期的数字\n但是我们可以看到他做了\n这有一些反应\n因为这样做的目的性是什么呢\n因为日本的央行呢\n他作用大概一兆美元左右的外汇存底\n如果每一次日元跌破163\n他的干预的防线的时候\n他就会直接抛售美元外汇存底\n来进行汇市的干预\n那这个呢就是很消耗\n但是如果透过政策的引导\n让GPIF他现在\n他这个规模是有1.8兆美元\n还有日本加户庞大的储蓄\n都可以留在日本国内\n那就形成了一个本土的\n很坚实的一个互盘的机制\n所以它这个是有它这个目的性\n再看数据的第三个\n我们来看日本它还有\n除了GBIF之外\nGBIF是日本政府\n它来管理的这个年金\n它另外还有第二个\n就是日本国内\n它的个人投资免税的账户\n叫NISA\n那它现在日本政府\n它这个脑筋还动到免税账户上\n根据它官方的数据呢\n截至2025年底\n日本的NISA的账户突破了2800万户\n资产规模达到71兆日元\n所以也很庞大\n但是这里面过去它的制度呢\n有一个困难之处\n就是日本的散户拿到了免税额度之后\n绝大多数呢\n它都是买S&P500\n或者是全球的股票基金\n那这形成了说\n你这个部分是免税的嘛\n日本政府给你免税\n可是散户的钱呢\n他是把这个资本\n就是这个NISA的账户\n他去投海外\n尤其大部分是到美国去\n所以这是为什么他觉得\n有点矛盾的地方\n同时日本的家户呢\n持有JGB的比例呢\n就是日本国债的比率低于2%\n相比之下\n美国散户\n他持有美债的比例是9%\n其实很可以理解啦\n因为日本你这么低的利率\n我放在你这个公债上面\n不是很傻吗\n那所以我把钱放到海外去\n也比较合理\n我即使买美国国债\n也比收益也比你\n这个日本国债要高\n所以这个长期都形成\n这样的一个做法\n这个是非常合理的安排\n那现在也因为这样\n所以日本\n因为它要吸收资源\n它资源不够\n所以它要脑筋动到\n日本个人的账户上面\n所以财务省\n它现在在做什么事情\n它全力推动\n把JGB纳入了NISA的免税范围\n就是你投资日本的国债\n我也让你免税\n这也是配合高市扫描政府\n他的目标\n希望在2040年之前\n将加户金融资产中的股票\n基金和债券的比例\n有23%提升到40%\n就是让他更多的\n这个日本人手上的钱\n可以为尽到\n还是留在日本国内\n所以日本政府呢\n其实讲白了\n他就是推动把民间散户的\n这些老百姓的荷包里面的钱\n账户里面的钱\n以及国家的主权债务\n他强行绑定\n换句话说\n老百姓的储蓄呢\n他面对未不保的政府官僚\n因为他开的支票越来越多\n那怎么办呢\n他没有钱了\n所以就来动老百姓的钱\n就等于是在收拾\n不但收拾过去几十年的烂摊子\n另外呢\n他还要面对政府\n他现在在搞的AI军备竞赛\n其实我自己在写这个研究报告\n写到这里的时候\n我就想到我\n很多年前我看\n大陆拍的那个走向共和\n那个电视剧\n它里面有一段\n就是在讲到\n它包含日本明治维新\n还有之后\n它到要打二战\n日本要打二战的时候\n当时的军政府\n其实日本也是资源有限\n它也是征用很多民间的资源\n甚至老百姓\n其实穷的都没饭吃\n都把家里面的\n等于说卖锅卖铁\n所以他就请进老百姓\n所有的资源\n他为了去打这一战\n所以我自己写到这边\n我就觉得\n我还是觉得政府\n其实是必须要做克制\n你不能让政府\n政府变成一个胃不保的巨兽\n它一直在吸收资源\n日本现在就有点往这个方向去\n今天在讲\n我们看数据的第三点\n我们来看\n我们一直在讲\n日本有一个carry trade\n就是日元的套利交易\n所以我们来看\n它在做这件事情\n日本政府在做这件事情的时候\n它动用它的年金GPIF\n还有要把它的\n日本的加户资金回流\n对国际投资人来讲\n我们要怎么看这件事情\n所以这是我今天要谈的\n第三点就是Carrie Trade\nCarrie Trade它现在看起来是有要动摇了\n甚至要瓦解\n因为日本的套利交易就是Japan Yen\nCarrie Trade它的结构性已经开始转折\n因为过去长达数十年\n全世界最受欢迎的交易之一就是借日元\n然后投海外的资产\n因为海外资产利息比较高\n收益比较高\n可是日元是利息成本非常的低\n甚至有一段时间它是负利率\n但是我们看当GPIF\n它减少海外资产的投资\n而且日本的散户\n它也透过NISA\n回流到它日本的国债的时候\n日元在结构上的卖压\n就会稍微消停一些\n那靠日元单向贬值来躺赚的\nCarrie Trade的时代就走向终结\n那我们对投资人来讲\n我们要注意什么呢\n就是第一个我们还是要注意\n外汇避险的这个成本\n现在这个情况之下\n海外的低值利率的债券的\n它的实质收益已经转为负向\n等于说日本的它的动向\n对我们确实是有一些影响\n对于我们一般的投资人来讲\n你要审\n我们可能审视一下\n我们手上的全球型的股票\n还有美股的ETF\n如果我们不做外汇避险的话\n未来可能会面临说赚了股价\n会赔了日元\n所以这个要注意一下\n今天这一集呢\n我们谈到的是\n日本政府动用了\n日本的吃老本的账户\n来为国家的经济\n还有它的债务来背书\n那公开市场的日元和国债\n其实我们看到的只是第一个层面\n那下一期呢我想要来谈一下\n其实这个是\n我觉得是更深一层的思考\n就是因为日本它现在也要允许\n它的GPIF\n投资日本本土的私募基金\n那这个私募基金\n其实不只是日本的GPIF\n就是它的退休基金\n被允许去投私募基金\n其实全球市场也在往这样发展\n那这样发展有哪些好处\n还有哪些潜在的风险呢\n所以我想要来探讨一下\n我是魔王\n频道命名魔王想两下\n提醒自己多想一层\n直面恐惧与贪婪\n如果你喜欢这样的分析方式\n对于今天的题目\n我们欢迎你留言分享\n你的看法\n我们下次再见",
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