{ "text": "梁文峰的四小时投资者访谈泄露\n到底说了什么敏感信息\n导致他们都停止了第二轮融资\n大家好\n欢迎收听老饭讲故事的YouTube频道\n首先传出来的到底是一个什么东西\n咱们先用两分钟\n把这个事情基本上跟大家梳理一下\n这两天的网上再传一份文件\n叫做梁文峰投资者交流会录音文字稿\n这个文字稿呢\n应该是5月20号录的\n隔了两个月突然传出来\n它是一个什么样的场合呢\n一场闭门的投资者会议\nDeep Seek成立以来\n第一轮对外融资准备去投钱的这些投资人\n跟梁文峰在一起做了一次集体沟通\n应该是一个zoom上的会议\n每家机构呢出两个人\n总的时长呢\n应该是三小时四十四分钟\n所以外边经常说是四角式放弹\n四手五入大差不差的\n那流传出来的时间呢\n应该是7月16日\n7月下旬开始大规模传播\n也就是说从开会到流出来\n中间大概隔了两个月的时间\n流出来的形态呢\n是一份42页的PDF完整版的正文是35000字\n118个问题\n但是那个文件实在看不下去\n因为太口语化了\n就真的是一问一答\n一问一答这么来的\n所以我还是看了一个总结版原始的录音文件\n我没找着\n至今为止\n没有在公开网络上出现过\n这个PDF里头开头写的音频文件\n叫做Deepseek0520.m4a\n但是那是整理者在描述他手上的素材\n并不是说这个文件跟着一起流传出来的\n所以呢\n现在网上找到的通通都是文字稿\n没有音频\n那为什么很多人以为自己听过录音呢\n因为网上确实有一些录音\n但是那个录音呢\n是用这个口播稿\n重新让AI配的音啊\n并不是原始录出来的\n那么这个文件到底是不是真的呢\n咱们聊了半天\n如果这东西完全是假的\n这也没有任何意义对吧\n7月23日\n美日经济新闻拿了这个实录\n去向参与投资Deep Seek的机构\n做了核实\n得到的回应是\n这场闭门会议确实是在今天5月开的\n内容属实\n既然如此的话\n我们就值得接着下去去聊这个问题了\n另外一个特别有意思的是什么\n今天早上传出来的消息\n说梁文峰生气了\n我三令五身\n不要对外传的这个信息传出去了\n我们不做第二轮融资了\n后边不玩了\n甚至呢\n说有一些投资人\n你们现在不用再跟我接触了\n有一些投资协议\n我们就不要再去签字了\nIPO筹备啊\n也一并搁置\n同时要求团队重新评估\n信息披露流程和投资人沟通机制\n报道也说了\n这不是最终结果\n未来仍然可能重启\n但是这一块呢\n虽然有多家报道\n但是也没有看到梁文峰本人和Deepseek\n官方的一些消息\n今天咱们来讲三个部分\n第一个部分\n咱们讲最关键的\n就是这个稿件里头\n到底泄露了什么敏感的信息\n没有\n虽然很多人在去解读这个东西\n但是解读都是什么\n梁文峰怎么朴实了\n怎么克制了\n他们去说中美关系怎么样了\n咱不先讲这个\n咱先讲到底有什么敏感信息\n被泄露出来\n第二块\n咱们再去按照商业组织技术\n中美算力四条线\n把他整个的内容稍微捋一下\n第三块呢\n咱们来说结论啊\n为什么偏偏在这个时候泄露\n以及第二轮融资泡汤\n到底意味着什么\n五月份开的会\n七月份泄露\n那肯定是有原因的嘛\n我们到底应该怎么读这个东西\n咱们先来讲第一块\n到底泄露了什么敏感信息\n主持人说我稍微提醒一下\n梁文峰讲了很多比较敏感的信息\n请大家千万不要外传一些数字\n或者是一些情况\n包括卡量什么的\n同时也千万不要录屏对外做分享\n主持人专门讲这个话了\n这种会呢\n我们以前也开啊\n你投资的时候\n特别是有很多股东的时候\n你要去开这个会的\n要让这个创始人上来跟大家讲一讲\n我们到底在干什么\n然后呢\n回答大家一些问题\n这种呢\n通常会有一个主持人\n这个主持人呢\n大概率是律师\n就是处理这个融资的律所的一些律师\n也有可能的是FA\n我们叫FA呢\n你基本上认为他叫投融资助理吧\n主持人特意点了一个名字叫卡亮\n说明当场就有人意识到这场会讲过头了\n梁文峰自己在讲华为卡的时候啊\n他说了一句\n说华为950\n华为给了我们16000卡\n这个应该可以公开说吧\n你评一评他讲的说应该可以\n就是这个事他其实也是拿不太准\n所以反应过来就意味什么呢\n其他那些数字他心里清楚是更不能公开的\n他在他这四个小时里头\n他不断在判断哪句话能说\n哪句话不能说\n这个里头第一个最不能说的是什么\n就是合规风险\n他讲这样一话\n华为也只能给我们这么多了\n因为这个价格也不便宜\n互联网大厂追求会更大\n对于互联网大厂来说\n它更需要\n对我们来说\n我们可以买一些不合规的卡\n大家注意啊\n叫不合规的卡\n这什么意思\n就是走私卡\n就是它去买英伟达去了\n大家一定要注意\n这种东西是不能对外说的\n第二个就是它的算力加底\n它到底有多少卡\n从去年它发布DeepSeek R1开始\n大家就在猜他到底有多少卡\n他讲了说我们现在大概有两万张H等效算力\n这其中大部分是最近一两个月刚到\n可能还有很多机器还没有来\n接下来几个月我们还会有大批量的机器买过来\n基本上都是英伟达\n大家注意这句话\n这些机器是哪来的\n中国到底有没有PH200的进口\n虽然美国商务部说\n现在中国已经不是零了\n他们买了一块还是买了几块\n也是两百\n这些到底是什么\n然后呢\n他讲到了华为卡的配额跟大厂的差距\n说华为给了我们16000张卡的产能\n互联网大厂可能是十几万\n我们就1万多张\n然后呢\n是华为卡的真实折算\n说16000卡的华为950\n相当于4000卡的B系列\n它这个意思就是什么呢\n就是四张华为950相当于一张B300\n然后是算力天花板\n现在最大的模型上\n我们其实训练不起\n我们哪怕把500亿美金全花掉\n其实也训不起\n哪怕能够堆起来也用不起\n这四条合在一起\n就是一个很完整的\n可以验算的算力资产负债表了\n它就是这么多的卡\n而且呢\n他也讲了说\n我们愿意去买更多的英伟达卡\n而且呢\n有一些溢价\n或者有一些其他的不太合规的方式\n我们都愿意接受\n这个大家再想想到底在说什么\n为什么说这个东西泄露出来\n非常非常敏感\n再往后呢\n他讲了他的整个运营方式\n他说我们只需要赚6倍的利润\n但是这个6倍利润呢\n没有其他的数据佐证\n所以我不知道他的成本是拿什么算的啊\n而且他讲的是说10个月收回成本\n就是我现在买机器\n甭管多少钱买的机器\n我收API的这个钱10个月\n把这个机器钱挣回来就完事了\n我就可以打平\n我就可以盈利啊\n而且呢顺手把对手的成本也点了\n10个月回本我们自己能做到\n但是其他人做不到\n像阿里啊腾讯啊\n他们不是我们\n没有我们这个优化能力\n他们的成本会比我们高好几倍\n这个呢\n确实有人验证过了\n有人用B300去部署Deepseek V4 Pro\n发现这个成本极贵啊\n比Deepseek自己拿出来的报价还要贵好多\n所以在优化这一块\nDeepseek一定是做了更多的工作\n再往后是年度采购规模\n说客观上来讲\n如果说我今年能够花掉200亿\n就属于我们的采购部门业绩超级好了\n他会要求采购部门尽可能去买去\n要把200亿美金买成英伟达卡\n采购策略呢\n这个大家要再仔细听\n如果能够把钱变成卡的话\n那我们会毫不犹豫的\n把所有的钱都变成卡\n并且在这方面\n我们是愿意付一定的溢价的\n只有买英伟达才有溢价\n而且这个溢价\n应该指的并不是美国政府多征收的那个税\n而是可能到东南亚\n或者通过什么样的渠道\n洗过澡以后\n拎回来的这个钱\n这个里头最核心的这句话\n就是我愿意加价这四个字\n这里的还有一段相对比较敏感的是什么呢\n就是同行伙伴和投资人的点评\n这种会通常不会说上面这些东西\n那个实在太敏感了\n我们通常开会也不会讲这个\n但是呢\n经常会去讲一下竞争对手啊\n我们在什么样的生态位啊\n这部分呢\n也是不能对外说的\n因为对外说得罪人\n但是呢\n这个就流传出来了嘛\n首先呢\n他就说质朴\n说质朴的开源跟我们是不一样的\n质朴开源是一种被迫的感觉\n因为Deep Seek从第一天开始就开源\n而智朴的话是发现时代玩不转了\n别人都开源了\n那也没办法只能开源\n包括像百度的文心炎\nKimi原来都不是开源的\n后来说不行\n我们还是要去开源的\n第二个说字节\n因为字节\n它的模型是B元的\n它有什么好处呢\n我看不出来有什么好处\n然后又去说阿里和腾讯\n说成本要比我们高好几倍\n说国内现在做模型的公司太多了\n美国可能就三家\n应该估计是谷歌\nopen ai和anthropic\n说即使这样的资源也是分散的\n某种程度说比较浪费\n他认为国内未来可能也就剩了这么三家\n不需要这么多做模型的公司\n说到华为\n这个特别有意思\n他一边说帮华为把生态做好\n一边在刚才那个折算后边\n接了一句话\n所以不是一个很大的量\n意义不是很大\n就是他手里面的卡\n肯定还是英伟达最多\n现在他新买的也都是英伟达\n华为就是一万六千卡就完事了\n其他的估计也就不会再继续采购了\n特别有意思的一点叫折旧\n华为卡最多三年折旧\n华为950今年用可能还挺好\n明年我觉得也将就\n后面再用\n我觉得可能就真的太费电了\n这个话什么意思\n不是说华为950到第三年就废了\n而是华为现在自己也在快速更新迭代\n他们可能也快要做出5纳米的卡来了\n现在950应该是等效7纳米\n你如果有等效5纳米\n或者是等效3纳米的卡\n950就太费电了\n你用更新的卡会更划算一些\n我觉得我们可以这样去理解这个东西\n最后呢\n讲到了英伟达啊\n他说英伟达在自掘坟墓\n这个待会我们细讲啊\n我们现在看看\n梁文峰讲了这些敏感信息\n透露出来\n确实很多人就没法见面了\n而且他现在这样的一东西流传出来以后\n那以后美国政府再指责他说\n你走斯卡去训练新魔警\n无可辩驳呀\n你自己都承认了\n而且原来还可以讲说\n我以前攒的卡\n现在说了\n最近两位先到的\n我买了一堆\n我现在想把200亿美金都花了\n只要谁能够把卡都买回来\n我愿意接受议价\n这话都说出来了\n所以这个确实是露底\n露的有点太多了\n而且点评了这么多的合作伙伴\n包括像英伟达\n黄尔勋有时候跑来\n还要去跟他见个面呢\n那你这玩意咋弄啊\n没法见面的呀\n后边我们来说一下完整的内容有哪些\n第一个就是我不惦记做腾讯\n也不惦记做自己\n我挣我自己的钱就完事了\n他讲到的一个最核心的东西就是克制\n他也讲到开源\n说我为什么要开源\n因为开源确实挣的钱少\n但是我还是要坚持开源\n原因他讲的也是很现实的\n大家注意梁文峰这个人是做量化出来的\n做量化出来的人没有那么多情怀\n这帮人是算账的\n只要账算对了\n他就会往前做\n所以他去选择做开源\n目标不是说这是我的愿景\n这是我的一个什么情怀\n他选择做这个东西的原因\n是因为他觉得这样最划算\n他认为说未来AI会非常非常火\n他可能会占到全人类社会GDP的10%\n甚至更大\n那如果有谁想在里边把它都吃掉\n比如像OpenAI说我要垄断它\n那其他人一定会不乐意的呀\n会有人拿出一个更便宜的来说\n我这个只需要吃掉一半就可以了\n再下一个人上来说\n我只需要吃掉十分之一就可以了\n在这样的情况下\n我可以找一个平衡\n让我能够有盈利\n但是我吃的最少\n这样的话\n我就可以竞争胜利了\n而像OpenAI\n这种书\n我惦记把它都吃下来这些人呢\n他就没有办法跟我竞争胜利\n而且呢\n他说我一点都不介意\n别人拿我的模型去部署\n你部署去呗\n但是你部署完了以后呢\n你优化没我优化的好\n最后你还是得回来找我\n所以这是他的一个非常非常核心的点\n第二块呢是组织和人才观\n他讲的也很清楚\n说我们融资干嘛呢\n就干一件事\n让团队稳定下来\n因为前面他人被挖的太多了\n说只要融资\n我给他们的期权啊\n有很高的价值\n他们就会好好的留下来干活\n然后他也讲了说我们没有KPI\n也从来不加班\n原因是两个\n第一个原因\n他们这个公司有两种任务\n一个叫正式任务是从上而下的\n比如说我们要发布DeepSeek维斯了\n这个叫分工好好干活去\n另外一个任务是自下而上的\n就是不被安排的\n你自己想干什么\n你自己干去\n也没有什么前置要求\n而他这个分工是怎么分的呢\n大家还记得谷歌吗\n谷歌原来叫\n就是你有20%的时间\n可以做自己的事情\n后来呢\n他们也做不到了\n把这个东西取消掉了\nDeepseek说我们啊\n一半一半啊\n就是你有一半的时间\n要去做上面交代下来的任务\n一半的时间\n可以自己去做研究\n至于为什么不加班呢\n他也有起了两个原因\n第一个原因是\n他说我们认为研究呢\n是需要松弛的环境的\n你把这事逼得太紧\n就做不了研究了\n第二个呢\n特别见识啊\n就是我们聚焦啊\n做的事很少\n不会去做视频\n也不会去做多摩泰这些东西\n我们认为呢\n这个是一个好生意\n但是呢\n它不在我们的目标路径上\n你要做的事少了\n那肯定就不需要加那么多班\n这个也是非常有意思一点\n咱们来讲一下\n它的技术路线和下一代模型\n它认为的技术路线是这样的\n语言模型是第一代\n思维链也就是推理\nDeepseek RE这个东西\nCOT是第二代\n第三代是Agent智能体\n第四代叫持续学习\n第五代是自我迭代的基点\n然后是聚身智能\n大家注意它整个排的顺序非常有意思\n现在它肯定是在做智能体\n他认为下一代模型应该是持续学习和自我迭代\n所以他认为Deep Seek V4并不是下一代模型\n他还会再去训练新的\n至于说为什么最后才做巨神智能\n而不是先做\n他觉得有可能等跨过起点之后\nAI的算力\nAI的能力就已经快速提升了\n很多我们现在做起来很累的事情\n到那个时候就变得很容易了\n所以它的整个的理论是这样\n就是我们用最偷懒的方式\n水到渠成的方式来去做研究\n如果你没有达到前面的起点\n你直接开始去身智能\n直接开始玩物理模型的话\n或者叫世界模型\n会很累\n他用了这样的一个方式去描述\n然后也有人去问他说\n是一个什么样的起点\n当时哪天到呢\n他说这个可能不是一个起点\n它是一个渐进的过程\n小不快跑啊\n这样的一个状态\n又有人问他说\n那有没有一个临界点\n或达到某一个特定标志以后\n就这个过去了呢\n他补充一句说是没有临界点\n但他也是非线性的\n这话什么意思呢\n就是你没有办法说\n今天有一个里程碑式的事件\n到了以后\n这个起点就卖过了\n但是呢\n他也不是很平顺的一条线上去\n他可能也是跳跃式的发展啊\n然后他专门讲啊\n说这个是原话\n说只是我们觉得这条路线图是最轻松\n因为每一步你要做的新的都很少\n我们可以不用加班\n但是如果路线图是反过来\n比如说你要先实现聚身智能\n那么你自己做的就会很累\n这是一个很苦的活\n说起点之后再去做聚身智能\n那个就不用我们来做了\n模型自己就可以出来了\n这是他的原话非常有意思\n所以他讲的说\n别人排技术路线排的是什么最重要\n他排的是怎么干最正劲\n这个排序方式是不一样的\n所以他前面讲的不加班\n正式的任务不超过一半\n这些克制的东西都在这里\n至于视频的部分\n他讲了SORA出来以后\n很多人都在做视频\n大公司小公司都在做\n但是小公司现在都已经挂了\n它跟智能的上限没有关系\n但是商业上它是个好生意\n最后呢\n他补充了一个立场\n他说我们不会因为它是一个好生意就去做它\n我们只会因为它是智能路线图上的东西\n才会去做\n因为他认为视频不在这个路线上\n所以他就不做了\n而至于多模态呢\n它的定位是组件\n就是说啊\n这个东西不会把它像\nGemini 3.1 Pro似的\n直接原生训练到模型里去\n它应该是模型外边挂的一个组件\n因为这个东西呢\n跟这个智能路线图也是没有关系的\n然后讲到Skyling Low\n就是不断的放大模型\n就可以得到更好结果\n它的态度呢也非常明确啊\n他说硅谷在说Skyling到头的时候\n那是对硅谷来说的\n对于中国人来说\n我们离那个还远呢\n我们根本就没有scaling到那个程度\n我们训练这么大的模型\n并不是因为我们觉得这么大的模型就够了\n是因为我们刚好就有这么多资源\n所以阻止它scaling的不是技术判断\n是卡\n这句话是理解整场会议的一个钥匙\n这儿呢\n还有一个特别有趣的点啊\n他讲到说\n我们这儿有一半的核心研究人员是在标数据的\n他说数据标注成本\n美国跟中国是没有什么区别的\n中国标数据并没有成本优势\n尤其是标注高端数据\n大家注意啊\n像美国标数据\n早期你可以用那种特别便宜的人去标\n比如说open ai用非洲人去标数据\n但是后面标数据\n你特别要标一些\n比如说科研论文什么\n你让非洲人去\n他看不懂啊\n现在美国专门有一些创业公司\n就找科学家来标数据\n标完了以后\n这些数据进到模型里以后\n才可以让模型变得更粗命\n为什么咱们现在老去蒸馏美国人的模型\n因为我们没有这么多科学家\n去给你标这个数据去\n但是Deepseek说\n我们还是从头去标吧\n只有这样的话\n才可以有最适合我们的数据\n才可以让模型真的变粗命\n再往后呢\n他讲到了现在中国开源模型\n他说我们现在基本上都是50B模型\n他说不对啊\n咱们现在的模型不都是1.6T1.几T吗\n这个要讲的清楚啊\n讲到1.几T是模型的总参数\n而每一次你去干一件事情的时候\n激活的参数大概也就是50B\n也就是500亿左右\n他说他准备在今年年底去训练出来\n可以有150B激活的这样的一个新模型出来\n为什么原来不干\n没卡\n对吧\n就算你做出来了\n你150亿激活参数的模型\n你也跑不起来\n现在的一个大体的状态是这样\nDeepseek V4 Pro\n总参数是1.6万亿\n也就是1.6T\n激活是49B或者叫491\n他讲的就是大家都是50B左右\n大差不差\n至于KIMI K3 2.8万亿\n也就是2.8T\n是全球最大的开源模型\n但是每一次激活的也是50B\n跟Deepseek V4 Pro是一样的\nGRM5.2呢\n它是744B\n就是连1T都没达到\n它每一次激活的参数是40B\n至于MiniMax M3\n是我现在用的比较多的一个模型\n428B的模型\n这个就要小很多了\n每一次回答问题激活23B\n是最省的一个\n至于签问呢\n那是个大家伙啊\n现在的3.8总参数量是2.4T\n每一次干活可以激活350B的参数\n是目前国内最大的一个模型\n我们要看每一次干活激活多少参数\n但是目前放出来的是MAX预览版\n官方说正式发布后会开放权重\n但是目前并没有开放出来\n等它开放出来以后\n咱们再看一看\n所以国内的所有模型\n除了千万3.8那个还没开源的之外\n基本上都是在二十几B到五十B之间的\n这个激活参数量上晃来晃去\n所以现在他就准备在今年年底之前\n再推一个150B\n就是每一次激活150B的模型\n这个会有巨大的提升的\n美国模型有多大呢\n因为他们不开源\n没有明确的数据出来\n但是有些人去做过反推\n估算GBT5.5的总参数量\n大概是9T\n激活量的话可能会达到800币\nCloud Opus 4.7大概是4T\n总激活量的话不太确定到底有多少\n这个只能是大家去估算\n对方也不会说承认或者是不承认\n没有这些事\n梁文峰讲的说这个差距其实就是卡\n我们差这么多卡\n他说我要训练跟OpenAI同样大的模型\n应该需要5万张GB300\n如果是换成华为950的话\n是20万张\n所以这就是一个1比4的关系\n在对照第一块清单里面的两个数\n它手里头有2万张H等效\n华为给了16000张\n所以它现在还是训练不出\n像OpenAI那样的模型的\n像XSGB那样的模型的训练不出来\n所以咱们就知道为什么\n他说哪怕把500亿美金都花掉\n可能也训练不起这样的一句话\n大概就是这样的一个意思\n所以他的战略是什么呢\n就是说我们现在根本就不会考虑\n到这么大的一个规模上去跟美国竞争\n还是在我们能够训练得起\n能够用得起的规模上\n也就是几时币激活规模上\n先把它做好\n至于中美差距\n他的看法也很简单\n就是算力差距\n我们没有那么多的卡\n他的原话是\n我们跟美国的差距是什么\n其实只差一点\n就是资源\n人上面几乎没有差距\n因为就是同一批人\n可能是中国人\n有一些人留在国内\n有些人留在国外\n并不是说聪明的人去国外了\n没有的\n其实他是比较随机的\n这个话特别有意思\n他并不认为出去的人就比国内的人高那么一等\n他说出去的人\n你觉得他做出来的东西好\n是因为他们有更多的卡\n而国内的这些人才\n他没有那么多卡\n有好多试验他做不了\n所以你会觉得国外的人要更强一些\n但是他认为选择的过程是相对比较随机的\n他认为现在跟美国的差距是落后美国两年\n只用了美国二十分之一的算力\n把这个事情做出来了\n这个叙事就是落后一到两年\n但是呢\n只用了它二十分之一的算力\n未来啊\n我们要把这个叙事改写\n也就是我们要用它几分之一的算力\n但是把时间缩的更短\n压缩到六个月三个月\n他觉得这是一个目标啊\n辽文峰呢\n也承认了有天花板啊\n说在总体算力\n还是有数量级的差距的\n全面超越是不现实的\n但是在某些有取舍的重点上超越\n他认为是可能的\n再说国产算力\n这块的相对来说还是比较乐观的\n他说英伟达的CUDA护城河正在快速瓦解\n有三个理由\n第一个有AI了\n建立生态比过去容易太多了\n因为AI可以写代码\n第二\n有了新的高级语言\n他说有一个语言叫Tail-Lang\n用这种高级语言写CUDA的算子\n可以很快把英伟达整套生态重写一遍\n再结合AI\n看起来就没有什么障碍了\n这个Tail Lang\n应该是北大的一帮人和Deepseek\n一起合作做出来的一个全新的编程语言\n第三个特别有意思\n他说Cuda这个东西\n还是从游戏卡演变出来的\n因为英伟达最早是做游戏卡的\n早期游戏业务是英伟达的一个核心业务\n所以呢给Cuda留下了很多包袱啊\n这些东西你说我把它扔了\n从来呢也没有那么容易\n所以Cuda是一个相对比较旧的架构\n现在我们整个重新写一套的话\n应该是一个相对来说比它更高效的方式啊\n我们没有包袱嘛\n然后他也讲的是英伟达在自学坟墓啊\n他说我呢也不是说一定要自己造卡\n只要我能够用相对合理的价格买到卡\n我才不造呢\n如果英伟达愿意通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通通\n泄露出来到底图什么呢\n没有无缘无故的事情\n大家要注意7月份发生了什么\n发生了几件事情\n第一个就是Deep Seek本身并没有那么领先\n这个是大家要注意的\n原来Deep Seek是聚集全中国的期望\n现在发现好像没有达到\n第二个这个投资人都很着急\n因为梁文峰这个案子\n它属于一个非常不正规的案子\n它的做法是什么呢\n他自己出了200亿\n成为了领投方\n他自己去写的协议\n其他投资人急呀\n我把钱放下来\n你啥时候上市\n啥时候下一轮你怎么翻翻\n但这事别人都说的不算数啊\n所以这个时候呢\n就会有人去给他一点点小的压力啊\n第三个是什么呢\nKimi K3出来了呀\n现在又有了新的Deep Seek时刻了\n2.8T的参数\n每一次激活50币\n效果好的一塌糊涂\n又把美国的股市给干崩了\n另外还有GRM5.2\n在各种评分上\n比Deepseek V4 Pro还要强一些\n特别是在编程这一块\n我有压力啊\n我也要向我的老板\n向我的LP解释\n说我没有当冤大头啊\n我这个钱给的是值的\n再加上最近整个的科技股回调\n一定会有人有压力啊\n这个事情叫什么\n事出反常必有妖\n我们去看看到底发生了什么\n就可以了\n所以泄露的原因\n就是刚才咱们讲这几个原因\n那么所谓的第二轮融资泡汤\n到底是什么意思呢\n这个融资呢是分三段的啊\n第一段呢是成立一个有限合伙\n梁文峰出200亿人民币\n除了国家人工智能产业基金之外\n其他的外部投资人\n都是进入到有限合伙里头去了\n而在有线合伙里头\n梁温峰是GP\n其他人都是RP\n叫有线合伙人\n梁温峰是叫普通合伙人\n那些出钱的人\n他们只有出钱的权利\n最后分红的权利\n中间查账的权利\n决策权他是没有的\n只有梁温峰自己有决策权\n第二轮是真正的投资\n就是他有线合伙\n500亿人民币\n加上国家人工智能产业基金的\n10亿人民币\n放在一起\n510亿人民币\n投到这个公司里边去啊\n第三轮呢\n是这一轮结束以后\n大家期待说再容易轮呗\n然后咱们去上市啊\n所以这里头有三轮\n到底停的是哪一个呢\n中间这轮是不可能停的\n因为国家人工智能产业基金的签资啊\n或者整个他这套东西是没有人敢去动的\n所以现在第一个确认的是第三段\n就是后边我们去上市啊\n这个肯定是停下来了\n原因也很简单啊\n就是他出这200亿啊\n其实并没有完全出资\n他只是说我承诺200亿\n我比如先出个20亿\n其他人都出10%\n后边随时大家按等比例放进去\n你要真上市的话\n你就现在得十大十本\n这200亿放着\n这个对于梁文峰来说也是有压力的\n而且上市还有一个很关键的事是什么\n审计啊\n他要付一亿价去买不合规的卡\n这玩意咋审计别扯大了\n所以第三段的投资\n包括上市应该都停掉了\n特别是有不合规的事情\n你不收拾干净根本就没法走\n至于第一段有可能也会停\n因为有线合伙吧\n他这个协议可以签的很长啊\n我慢慢签一点一点往里去把钱进来\n甚至有一年的时间把这钱进来\n因为有限合伙是这样规定的\n就是从我募资开始\n从我组建开始\n一年之内我把这个钱凑齐了\n就可以成立\n随时可以有人进有人出啊\n或者说有谁我不跟你签了\n我让其他人进来\n这个事都是可以的\n但是如果说到了一年\n我没凑齐这个钱\n那是要解散的\n你要把其他人的钱都还回去\n当然这个钱并不是说所有人都把钱放着\n而是说我们承诺出这个钱啊\n在这个过程中\n如果梁文峰能够确定了说这个消息到底是谁放的\n他是可以拒绝跟他们签这个有限合伙协议的\n就是这些人我不要你了\n我要换一个人\n等过几天咱们看看是不是有新闻出来\n说谁被踢出局了\n踢出局的人大概率就是把消息放出来的人\n现在呢\n梁文峰本人和deep seek官方是没有出来辟谣\n也没有去确认的\n这个呢反而是一个常见做法\n因为你甭管是说这事真还是假\n都会让这个风波继续传播下去\n你要想让这个事情快速的过去\n就这事我就不说了\n就相当于它没发生过\n最后呢咱们总结一下\n我们应该怎么去看这个文件\n这份文件呢还是值得去读的\n但是呢要读对地方\n这个内容真正有价值的是\n三个东西\n第一个是拿的多的\n会被拿的少的打败\n这个利润博弈论\n我只要是做开源\n我就拿的少\n我就可以把那个拿的多的干掉\n这是中国人最朴实的玩法\n第二个是一个语言模型\n到COT\n也就是推理模型\n到agent\n到持续学习\n到起点爆发\n到聚身智能\n这样的一个技术阶梯\n这个也是非常非常值得去思考的\n还有一点就是\n四倍加两年\n就是国产算力标志\n现在我们四张卡可以顶他一张卡\n还有一个就是我们现在跟美国比还差落后两年\n不要再想我们差六个月\n还是说追上了\n没有还是差挺多的\n这三个东西你听完了\n可以拿去用\n可以拿去验证\n可以拿去打赌\n其他的都是包装\n还有一点专门要提醒大家的\n不要把这东西当人设看\n有很多人说过这个话\n你一定是个坏人\n你说过那个话\n你一定是个好人\n不要这么简单\n我们要想清楚这个会是什么会\n它是一个投资会\n而且是一场什么样的投资会\n是一场极其不平等的投资会\n梁文峰说我现在开放了\n我要钱了\n你们愿意来就来\n不愿意来给我滚\n为什么我们要强调这一点呢\n形势比人强啊\n这是老范反复要讲的\n你说求求你给我钱吧\n您爱听什么\n我就给你说什么\n这是一种说法\n另外一种呢\n就是我不缺钱啊\n我现在要挑投资人了\n你们谁愿意给钱\n我得看看你\n三代以内出身\n是不是根红苗正\n我才要你的钱呢\n很听话的配合我\n我才要你的钱\n其他的人给我滚啊\n他是这样的一个状态\n放在这样的一个环境下\n我们再来看看\n梁文凤都说了什么\n投资人的诉求是什么\n我们要首先讲清楚\n他们没有什么情怀\n投资人都是来挣钱的\n他们想的是\n我今天把钱给你了\n你多长时间\n可以让我的钱翻多少倍\n你什么时候能够上市\n或者说我给你蹭个名声\n我可以再去募资\n而梁文凤讲的是什么\n什么叫克制\n就是你们不要惦记快速挣钱\n你们不要惦记短期上市\n我让你们来啊\n你们站上deep sick这趟车了\n你就已经有名声了\n你可以再去募资了\n我愿意分名声给你\n但是你就不要在我这要一些实际的东西了\n真正干活的时候这么克制呢\n不一定的\n他是在跟投资人讲\n所以现在流传出来的各种各样的信息\n我们的解读方式一定是要\n第一个看看这个东西到底是真是假\n怎么来的\n第二个\n想想这个东西为什么会到我面前来\n第三个我们要想说\n这个人在当时这个场景里\n他为什么说这个话\n他想达到一个什么目的\n好\n这就是咱们今天对于梁文峰四小时\n投资会议访谈的一个解读\n希望大家能够听一些\n外面听不到的东西\n今天的故事就讲到这里\n感谢大家收听\n请帮忙点赞\n点小铃铛\n参加discord讨论群\n也欢迎有兴趣有能力的朋友\n加入我们的付费频道\n再见\n拜拜", "language": "zh", "duration": 2274.487438, "segments": [ { "start": 0.0, "end": 4.48, "text": "梁文峰的四小时投资者访谈泄露", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09370500332600362, "no_speech_prob": 1.8639265478292977e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2517482517482517 }, { "start": 4.48, "end": 7.08, "text": "到底说了什么敏感信息", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09370500332600362, "no_speech_prob": 1.8639265478292977e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2517482517482517 }, { "start": 7.08, "end": 10.88, "text": "导致他们都停止了第二轮融资", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09370500332600362, "no_speech_prob": 1.8639265478292977e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2517482517482517 }, { "start": 10.88, "end": 11.8, "text": "大家好", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09370500332600362, "no_speech_prob": 1.8639265478292977e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2517482517482517 }, { "start": 11.8, "end": 13.76, "text": "欢迎收听老饭讲故事的YouTube频道", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09370500332600362, "no_speech_prob": 1.8639265478292977e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2517482517482517 }, { "start": 13.76, "end": 17.7, "text": "首先传出来的到底是一个什么东西", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09370500332600362, "no_speech_prob": 1.8639265478292977e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2517482517482517 }, { "start": 17.7, "end": 18.9, "text": "咱们先用两分钟", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09370500332600362, "no_speech_prob": 1.8639265478292977e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2517482517482517 }, { "start": 18.9, "end": 22.12, "text": "把这个事情基本上跟大家梳理一下", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09370500332600362, "no_speech_prob": 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60.26, "text": "所以外边经常说是四角式放弹", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 60.26, "end": 62.86, "text": "四手五入大差不差的", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 62.86, "end": 65.88, "text": "那流传出来的时间呢", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 65.88, "end": 68.26, "text": "应该是7月16日", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 68.26, "end": 71.52, "text": "7月下旬开始大规模传播", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 71.52, "end": 74.6, "text": "也就是说从开会到流出来", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 74.6, "end": 77.42, "text": "中间大概隔了两个月的时间", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 77.42, "end": 79.38, "text": "流出来的形态呢", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 79.38, "end": 84.48, "text": "是一份42页的PDF完整版的正文是35000字", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 84.48, "end": 86.98, "text": "118个问题", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13953110429107166, "no_speech_prob": 1.406781635626686e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2157676348547717 }, { "start": 86.98, "end": 88.72, "text": "但是那个文件实在看不下去", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 88.72, "end": 89.96, "text": "因为太口语化了", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 89.96, "end": 91.58, "text": "就真的是一问一答", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 91.58, "end": 92.84, "text": "一问一答这么来的", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 92.84, "end": 98.78, "text": "所以我还是看了一个总结版原始的录音文件", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 98.78, "end": 99.38, "text": "我没找着", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 99.38, "end": 100.9, "text": "至今为止", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 100.9, "end": 103.16, "text": "没有在公开网络上出现过", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 103.16, "end": 106.9, "text": "这个PDF里头开头写的音频文件", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11432736667234507, "no_speech_prob": 1.4801800410357835e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2058823529411764 }, { "start": 106.9, "end": 110.2, "text": "叫做Deepseek0520.m4a", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", 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"text": "没有音频", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10244182561407027, "no_speech_prob": 1.3426108315395258e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3890784982935154 }, { "start": 122.06, "end": 125.8, "text": "那为什么很多人以为自己听过录音呢", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10244182561407027, "no_speech_prob": 1.3426108315395258e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3890784982935154 }, { "start": 125.8, "end": 127.58, "text": "因为网上确实有一些录音", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10244182561407027, "no_speech_prob": 1.3426108315395258e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3890784982935154 }, { "start": 127.58, "end": 128.46, "text": "但是那个录音呢", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10244182561407027, "no_speech_prob": 1.3426108315395258e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3890784982935154 }, { "start": 128.46, "end": 129.58, "text": "是用这个口播稿", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10244182561407027, "no_speech_prob": 1.3426108315395258e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3890784982935154 }, { 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"text": "你们现在不用再跟我接触了", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09275100295608107, "no_speech_prob": 1.848357751577101e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 181.5, "end": 182.68, "text": "有一些投资协议", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09275100295608107, "no_speech_prob": 1.848357751577101e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 182.68, "end": 184.14, "text": "我们就不要再去签字了", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09275100295608107, "no_speech_prob": 1.848357751577101e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 184.14, "end": 185.84, "text": "IPO筹备啊", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09275100295608107, "no_speech_prob": 1.848357751577101e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 185.84, "end": 187.08, "text": "也一并搁置", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09275100295608107, "no_speech_prob": 1.848357751577101e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 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1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 196.72, "end": 197.86, "text": "但是这一块呢", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09275100295608107, "no_speech_prob": 1.848357751577101e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 197.86, "end": 199.38, "text": "虽然有多家报道", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09275100295608107, "no_speech_prob": 1.848357751577101e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 199.38, "end": 201.94, "text": "但是也没有看到梁文峰本人和Deepseek", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09275100295608107, "no_speech_prob": 1.848357751577101e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2879746835443038 }, { "start": 201.94, "end": 203.82, "text": "官方的一些消息", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10478789047155966, "no_speech_prob": 2.6273939621179743e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.4639175257731958 }, { "start": 203.82, "end": 206.04, "text": "今天咱们来讲三个部分", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10478789047155966, "no_speech_prob": 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"咱们再去按照商业组织技术", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10478789047155966, "no_speech_prob": 2.6273939621179743e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.4639175257731958 }, { "start": 229.84, "end": 231.04, "text": "中美算力四条线", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10478789047155966, "no_speech_prob": 2.6273939621179743e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.4639175257731958 }, { "start": 231.04, "end": 233.82, "text": "把他整个的内容稍微捋一下", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09339437833646448, "no_speech_prob": 1.491590184699021e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3963636363636365 }, { "start": 233.82, "end": 235.02, "text": "第三块呢", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09339437833646448, "no_speech_prob": 1.491590184699021e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3963636363636365 }, { "start": 235.02, "end": 236.2, "text": "咱们来说结论啊", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.09339437833646448, "no_speech_prob": 1.491590184699021e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3963636363636365 }, { "start": 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"text": "这种呢", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11540310937653547, "no_speech_prob": 1.5878492964915836e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.45 }, { "start": 284.82, "end": 286.42, "text": "通常会有一个主持人", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11540310937653547, "no_speech_prob": 1.5878492964915836e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.45 }, { "start": 286.42, "end": 287.32, "text": "这个主持人呢", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11540310937653547, "no_speech_prob": 1.5878492964915836e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.45 }, { "start": 287.32, "end": 289.22, "text": "大概率是律师", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11540310937653547, "no_speech_prob": 1.5878492964915836e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.45 }, { "start": 289.22, "end": 292.88, "text": "就是处理这个融资的律所的一些律师", "chunk": 0, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.10116197536518047, "no_speech_prob": 1.6001212507776863e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3309859154929577 }, { "start": 292.88, "end": 294.08, "text": "也有可能的是FA", 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"text": "首先呢", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13427785985610063, "no_speech_prob": 1.785021609690407e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.4429065743944636 }, { "start": 631.64, "end": 632.38, "text": "他就说质朴", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13427785985610063, "no_speech_prob": 1.785021609690407e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.4429065743944636 }, { "start": 632.38, "end": 635.3, "text": "说质朴的开源跟我们是不一样的", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13427785985610063, "no_speech_prob": 1.785021609690407e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.4429065743944636 }, { "start": 635.3, "end": 637.58, "text": "质朴开源是一种被迫的感觉", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.13427785985610063, "no_speech_prob": 1.785021609690407e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.4429065743944636 }, { "start": 637.58, "end": 640.24, "text": "因为Deep Seek从第一天开始就开源", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.1397561966233952, "no_speech_prob": 1.8485775410415073e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3066666666666666 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691.58, "text": "他一边说帮华为把生态做好", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.1204437001546224, "no_speech_prob": 1.4010951253362602e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2831541218637992 }, { "start": 691.58, "end": 694.66, "text": "一边在刚才那个折算后边", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.1204437001546224, "no_speech_prob": 1.4010951253362602e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.2831541218637992 }, { "start": 694.66, "end": 696.68, "text": "接了一句话", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 696.68, "end": 699.5, "text": "所以不是一个很大的量", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 699.5, "end": 700.86, "text": "意义不是很大", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 700.86, "end": 701.92, "text": "就是他手里面的卡", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 701.92, "end": 703.5, "text": "肯定还是英伟达最多", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 703.5, "end": 705.8, "text": "现在他新买的也都是英伟达", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 705.8, "end": 709.06, "text": "华为就是一万六千卡就完事了", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 709.06, "end": 712.3, "text": "其他的估计也就不会再继续采购了", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 712.3, "end": 714.76, "text": "特别有意思的一点叫折旧", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 714.76, "end": 717.9, "text": "华为卡最多三年折旧", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 717.9, "end": 721.04, "text": "华为950今年用可能还挺好", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 721.04, "end": 723.0, "text": "明年我觉得也将就", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12112570462161548, "no_speech_prob": 1.491231790828884e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.37109375 }, { "start": 723.0, "end": 724.82, "text": "后面再用", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.06652373426100787, "no_speech_prob": 1.2513584786433274e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3492063492063493 }, { "start": 724.82, "end": 727.72, "text": "我觉得可能就真的太费电了", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.06652373426100787, "no_speech_prob": 1.2513584786433274e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3492063492063493 }, { "start": 727.72, "end": 729.5, "text": "这个话什么意思", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.06652373426100787, "no_speech_prob": 1.2513584786433274e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3492063492063493 }, { "start": 729.5, "end": 731.9, "text": "不是说华为950到第三年就废了", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.06652373426100787, "no_speech_prob": 1.2513584786433274e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3492063492063493 }, { "start": 731.9, "end": 736.62, "text": "而是华为现在自己也在快速更新迭代", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.06652373426100787, "no_speech_prob": 1.2513584786433274e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3492063492063493 }, { "start": 736.62, "end": 740.4, "text": "他们可能也快要做出5纳米的卡来了", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.06652373426100787, "no_speech_prob": 1.2513584786433274e-11, 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"而且他现在这样的一东西流传出来以后", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12305013788571148, "no_speech_prob": 1.5694470029137264e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3379790940766552 }, { "start": 773.92, "end": 776.16, "text": "那以后美国政府再指责他说", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12305013788571148, "no_speech_prob": 1.5694470029137264e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3379790940766552 }, { "start": 776.16, "end": 778.64, "text": "你走斯卡去训练新魔警", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12305013788571148, "no_speech_prob": 1.5694470029137264e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3379790940766552 }, { "start": 778.64, "end": 780.56, "text": "无可辩驳呀", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12305013788571148, "no_speech_prob": 1.5694470029137264e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3379790940766552 }, { "start": 780.56, "end": 781.74, "text": "你自己都承认了", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.12305013788571148, "no_speech_prob": 1.5694470029137264e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3379790940766552 }, { 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1.3051948051948052 }, { "start": 789.88, "end": 791.66, "text": "我现在想把200亿美金都花了", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11669710894536706, "no_speech_prob": 1.9958834931999014e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3051948051948052 }, { "start": 791.66, "end": 793.46, "text": "只要谁能够把卡都买回来", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11669710894536706, "no_speech_prob": 1.9958834931999014e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3051948051948052 }, { "start": 793.46, "end": 794.82, "text": "我愿意接受议价", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11669710894536706, "no_speech_prob": 1.9958834931999014e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3051948051948052 }, { "start": 794.82, "end": 796.38, "text": "这话都说出来了", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11669710894536706, "no_speech_prob": 1.9958834931999014e-11, "compression_ratio": 1.3051948051948052 }, { "start": 796.38, "end": 799.42, "text": "所以这个确实是露底", "chunk": 1, "language": "zh", "avg_logprob": -0.11669710894536706, "no_speech_prob": 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